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Internet entrepreneur holds panel with Glenn Greenwald and Julian Assange to expand on revelations that New Zealand government sought to implement top-secret mass surveillance program.

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Mon 15 Sep 2014 05.26 EDTFirst published on Mon 15 Sep 2014 02.54 EDT
Moment of Truth: live stream of Kim Dotcom’s panel on surveillance accusations against New Zealand’s government.

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New Zealand’s election campaign collided with the biggest questions of the internet age on Monday - here’s how this remarkable day went down:

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Twitter lights up with verdicts on today’s event...

Loved the #MoT. How we garner interest in politics is changing. No longer dependent on a couple of media outlets. Democracy at work.

— fuimaono-sapolu (@Eliota_Sapolu) September 15, 2014

Not saying tonight doesn't raise serious questions for this country but that stream was the most over-hyped thing since Destiny. #Mot

— Mathew Grocott (@mathewgrocott) September 15, 2014

Have to say I thought Greenwald, Snowden and Amsterdam were all very good and the event overall was well worth it. #MoT

— parsley72 (@parsley72) September 15, 2014

This is turning out to be just the mixture of impressive, disturbing & excruciatingly cringe-worthy I was expecting. #MoT

— Dylan Horrocks (@dylanhorrocks) September 15, 2014

#MoT First piece of real journalism I have seen in this country for 30 years.

— aindriu macfehin (@rav3nus) September 15, 2014

#Mot finishes... long awkward pause across New Zealand... no one really know wtf that was.

— Guy Williams (@guywilliamsguy) September 15, 2014

It is up to every person in this hall (and the world) to speak the truth from tonight. #MoT

— Internet Party (@InternetPartyNZ) September 15, 2014

We are very fortunate to have had among the greatest voices in the world to expose these issues. #MoT

— Internet Party (@InternetPartyNZ) September 15, 2014

Laila Harré looks to be wrapping up the event now. She thanks the “three modern prisoners” - Assange, Snowden and Dotcom - for appearing, and also lauds Greenwald and Amsterdam, “warriors for our right to know and our responsibility to hold government around the world accountable for honouring our human rights”.

“This moment of truth has delivered,” she says, to a standing ovation.

Amsterdam describes PM John Key as “inherently a traitor” who “doesn’t cling to fundamental principles of human rights”.

He denounces the 2012 raid on Dotcom’s New Zealand mansion. “The leader of the government should have resigned on the spot that day,” he says.

Update: There is some confusion over whether Amsterdam said “traitor” or “trader”. While the audience reacted as if it was the former, it is more likely it was the latter, given Amsterdam had already referred a couple of times to the fact that Key was a currency trader and talked of him trading away New Zealanders’ human rights.

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Here’s some opinion coming in from Twitter about the event so far:

The real #MomentOfTruth is that this an ad for Kim Dotcom's skype alternative

— Lynda Brendish (@lyndabrendish) September 15, 2014

Show me the money! This is boring, where's the evidence? #momentoftruth

— Vaughan Rivett (@SocialBizGuy) September 15, 2014

If these people really cared about NZ they would've released the info ages ago not 5 days out from election #momentoftruth #politicalagenda

— Ben Carmichael (@thattechbloke) September 15, 2014

<3 Edward Snowden though #MomentOfTruth

— Amelia Byrnes (@ameliaisstupid) September 15, 2014

We’re hearing now from Bob Amsterdam, a Canadian international lawyer representing Kim Dotcom. He’s going a little broader, questioning the way governments point to terrorism to justify mass surveillance programs.

“Who’s attacking New Zealand?” he asks. “Our government are trying to alienate us from each other, and the are using terror to invade our homes, to invade our internet accounts, and to engage in mass surveillance that is violative of our most basic constitutional rights.”

He says Kim Dotcom is a victim of a “war on culture”, fought by large American entertainment corporations pursuing the German entrepreneur for copyright breaches in relation to his cloud-storage website, Mega.

The standing ovation Snowden received inside Auckland Town Hall.

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The moment Snowden took a pop at Assange. “…unless it affects my reputation; and then I’m gonna throw classified documents in the air like I’m Julian Assange.”

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Jazz hands from Kim Dotcom. Truly. #MoT

— Toby Manhire (@toby_etc) September 15, 2014

“There are two ways to fight mass surveillance. Number one is politically, which is what we’re tying to do here in New Zealand. Number two is technology - encryption,” Dotcom says.

He says both Assange and Snowden are beaming in via Dotcom’s new web-based “Skype on steroids”, which he claims is a “fully encrypted video conference solution”.

Kim Dotcom finally speaks!

The eccentric founder of MegaUpload promises that if his Internet party is granted the balance of power at this weekend’s NZ general election, he’ll stop any mass surveillance of Kiwis. “We’ll close one of the five eyes,” Dotcom says to applause.

Assange says Project Speargun is evidence of “an extreme, bizarre, Orwellian future that is being constructed secretly in New Zealand”.

“I have been, in the Edward #Snowden documents, a target of that surveillance” - Julian #Assange #MoT

— Rohan Nagel (@RohanNagel1997) September 15, 2014

Meanwhile, some real interest in this event among Kiwis.

With the Town Hall packed out, the @ONENewsNZ live truck becomes an impromptu screen for those outside pic.twitter.com/YI2F1isA7f

— Damian Christie (@damianchristie) September 15, 2014

Reports over Twitter than more than 22,000 people are currently watching the live stream over YouTube.

Glenn Greenwald calls John Key “shameless” for saying he would release classified documents, which Greenwald says would be his for his own political gain; and something he has never a head of state do before.

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Assange now welcomed into the discussion, and begins by explaining the “rather loud banging sound” in the background. He claims “someone” has purchased the flat below the Ecuadorian embassy and is currently tunnelling - as a drill drowns out his voice.

Julian Assange Photograph: kim.com
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Here are the first documents Greenwald has shown from the Snowden files, the first from mid-2012 and the second from the beginning of 2013.

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Project SPEARGUN. Photograph: Screenshot
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