Wikidata:Property proposal/Archive/27

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BBC Genome identifier

Done: BBC Genome ID (P1573) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Identifier for a single episode/ programme in the BBC Genome database of Radio Times programme listings, BBC Genome (Q18289539)
Data type	String
Template parameter	none yet, but used in en:wp:Template:BBC Genome prog
Domain	BBC Television and radio programmes
Allowed values	strings
Example	The End (Q7732049) = 80e68eee3d7d4965b02ec5d443ef2fd4 (from the URL http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/80e68eee3d7d4965b02ec5d443ef2fd4 )
Format and edit filter validation	tbc
Source	http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

The BBC have just launched their Genome database of all their broadcast programmes, based on listings in the Radio Times. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:22, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Support But I would change the name to "BBC Radio Genome identifier", otherwise it seems to have something to do with genomes.--Micru (talk) 09:48, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

These identifiers are not just for radio programmes. I don't see any realistic possibility of harm from such a misunderstanding. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:57, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Support clearly useful. If anyone wishes to educate me, I'm curious whether this also falls under Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control or not. --Mike Linksvayer (talk) 20:34, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

I can't see a statement of scope on that page. Strictly, Genome is not an Authority Control service; practically its IDs can function in that way, though semantically, they refer to a listing entry, not a programme. BBC programme ID (Q17361898) (see en:BBC Programme Identifier) performs that function better, but for a much smaller (post 2007, mainly) set of BBC programmes. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:01, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Done @Pigsonthewing, Mike Linksvayer:--Micru (talk) 16:53, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

listed in

Not done

Description	identifies lists for items, inverse of is a list of (P360)
Data type	items that are real lists-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Domain	any item that is not itself a list
Allowed values	items that are real lists
Example	island of Japan => listed in=> list of islands of Japan
Source	Externe Referenzen, Listenartikel in der Wikipedia (entweder Infobox oder Quelle)
Robot and gadget jobs	Führen Bots oder Helferlein irgendwelche Tätigkeiten mit dieser Eigenschaft aus oder sollten sie solche Tätigkeiten ausführen? (etwa in dem sie andere Eigenschaften auf Konsistenz überprüfen, Daten sammeln etc.)
Proposed by	Oursana (talk)

Discussion

Motivation. We need this property to link items to their lists.Oursana (talk) 13:26, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Question: I fail to see why we need to link items to lists. And I fail to see the purpose of items such as island of Japan (Q17308006) in the example. The items for any Japanese island, can just have statements declaring them to be 1) Japanese, and 2) islands, so why should they need island of Japan (Q17308006)? Please explain, regards Dipsacus fullonum (talk) 23:40, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Not done Lack of support and probably redundant with queries.--Micru (talk) 08:53, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

MalaCards ID

Done: MalaCards ID (P1583) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Identifier in the Malacards database of diseases
Data type	string (other health conditions?)-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	`\|MalaCard=`, just added to en:Template:Infobox disease
Domain	Diseases
Allowed values	Slugs from existing MalaCards URLs
Example	Huntington's disease (Q190564) => huntingtons_disease (resolves to http://malacards.org/card/huntingtons_disease )
Format and edit filter validation	tbc
Source	http://malacards.org/
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

See discussion at en.WP. Alternative property name could be "MalaCard". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:01, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Medicine -Tobias1984 (talk) 16:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Support I support the property and the inclusion in Wikidata, but the inclusion in the disease-infobox on en-wiki is, and the same goes for all those cryptic identifiers, a sub-optimal usage of infoboxes. 99 % of readers will not read those codes, nor follow the links to the sites, which are usually intended to be consumed by experts. In my opinion the infobox should give basic information to basic questions a reader might have: "how can I get this disease?", "how do I know I have it?", "is it treatable?". Even if we simplify, what is a very complex multi-variate system, we can still offer a quick overview and link to the sections within the text, where we can place all the statistic information and the "and, or, if else" information. I would rather have some over-simplified information and guide the reader to the appropriate section than these codes which probably lead many people to give up reading the information in the first place. -Tobias1984 (talk) 16:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

That's not really relevant here, but thanks for your support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:48, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Support I support the property as the data linked to clearly looks valuable. However, I do have some reservations based on their licensing.. "If you are not an academic non-profit institution, in order to access and use MalaCards, you must obtain a license by paying applicable licensing fees". – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Genewiki123 (talk • contribs).

I'll put that to them, but like many website ToU's they're unenforceable legalistic bullshit ("these ToU shall constitute a legally binding agreement between you and YEDA"). Not to worry, as all we'd be storing is, effectively, URLs. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:48, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Support I support the addition of the property in Wikidata, their data look quite comprehensive, as long as there is no issue with the licensing. What I'd like to discuss more is what should be in the infoboxes of Wikipedia, as Tobias1984 mentioned above. Emitraka (talk) 02:30, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Support, precisely per Tobias1984. Emw (talk) 11:45, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Done @Pigsonthewing, Tobias1984, Genewiki123, Emw: --Micru (talk) 19:02, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

natural product of taxon

Done: natural product of taxon (P1582) (Talk and documentation)

Description	links a natural product with its source (animal, plant, fungal, algal, etc)
Data type	Item
Domain	all
Allowed values	all
Example	Zinfandel wine (Q17329207) => Zinfandel (Q204433) ; ambergris (Q188774) => Physeter macrocephalus (Q81214) ; penicillin (Q12190) => Penicillium (Q843136) ; linseed oil (Q818405) => Linum usitatissimum (Q45108)
Proposed by	Micru (talk)

Discussion

This property will be used to separate the plant from the fruit it produces. In cases like wine making, it makes no sense to say that the wine is made out of the plant, but out of the fruit. The inverse property (fruit of) is also needed. --Micru (talk) 12:31, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Comment - I think that "fruit of" would be the better property as most properties go this direction (e.g. part of, subclass of). We don't really need the inverse property because it is a simple query. Just to be critical we should also consider making a qualifier to "part of" which could be named "part concerned --> fruit". Also: how well is "fruit" defined in Biology? -Tobias1984 (talk) 12:39, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Taxonomy has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. -Tobias1984 (talk) 12:39, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

perhaps better "product of". It is not just fruits, but also seeds, leaves, roots, wood, etc. It is possible for one plant to yield more than one product (flax gives oil and fiber). And fruits are well definied in biology but this does not match with the culinary definition (tomatos are fruits biologically, but a vegetable culinary; strawberries are fruits culinary, but not biologically, etc). Also, the same may apply to animals; should there be two properties or just one? - Brya (talk) 13:03, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

@Tobias1984, Brya: I have realized that we have the property product or material produced or service provided (P1056) but only for manufacturing, I think it could be generalized. As for this one I have changed the label to "product of" which is generic enough to cover all cases. What do you think?--Micru (talk) 13:05, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

@Micru, Tobias1984, Brya: seems useful for all kind of processes. we almoest could have a input/output property pairs, for maths I'll suggest a function range / function domain property pair. TomT0m ^(talk) 13:52, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Good. I would like it to be limited to products of living things. That is big enough. Generalizing it more may lead to unforeseen complications. - Brya (talk) 17:30, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

@Brya, Micru: With the current name this property will be used in a lot of places. But after a few months we might be able to see patterns in the data and will be able to split it into different properties (Or we might see that we don't have any problems. -Tobias1984 (talk) 09:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

@Tobias1984, Brya: What do you think of calling it "raw product of" without limitation to living organisms? That way we'd avoid unintended uses, or we could create two properties at once, the other one being "manufactured product of". One of the examples reads Zinfandel wine (Q17329207) => Zinfandel (Q204433), and that is actually a manufactured product since it requires a human-staged process.--Micru (talk) 11:50, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

@Tobias1984, Micru: I don't like the look of "raw product of", and was thinking of either "natural product of" or "product of taxon"? - Brya (talk) 14:39, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

@Tobias1984, Brya: Changed the label to "natural product of taxon". If there are no objections, I will create it in a couple of days.--Micru (talk) 10:17, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

OK. - Brya (talk) 10:20, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Support --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 14:52, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Support - belatedly. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:04, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Done @Brya, Pigsonthewing, Tobias1984, AmaryllisGardener, TomT0m:.--Micru (talk) 18:45, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Good, this is progress. - Brya (talk) 06:39, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

code Bé Cultural d'Interès Nacional

Done: Catalan object of cultural interest ID (P1586) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Cultural property identifier for Cultural Asset of National Interest (Q1019352) in Catalonia
Represents	Cultural Asset of National Interest (Q1019352)
Data type	String
Template parameter	field "identificador" in ca:Plantilla:Infotaula patrimoni cultural
Domain	places: cultural properties in Catalonia
Allowed values	monuments
Example	Sagrada Família (Q48435) -> 53-MH (register number)
Format and edit filter validation	up to 4 numbers, dash, two letters
Source	ca:Portal:Wiki Loves Monuments
Proposed by	KRLS (talk)

Discussion

It would be used to store WLM data that at the moment is not on Wikidata. KRLS (talk) 19:59, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Support - but please populate Q1019352. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:15, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Support --Micru (talk) 21:39, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Support --Davidpar (talk) 15:14, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Done -Tobias1984 (talk) 16:56, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Slovene Cultural Heritage Register ID

Done: Slovene Cultural Heritage Register ID (P1587) (Talk and documentation)

Description	reference number in the Slovene Immobile Cultural Heritage Register (RKD)
Represents	cultural monument of Slovenia (Q12794452)
Data type	String
Template parameter	"refšt" in sl:Template:Infopolje RKD
Domain	various types of buildings, monuments, objects, landscapes, settlements etc.; too many to list specifically
Allowed values	1-5 digits not preceded by 0
Example	Ljubljana Castle (Q2075156) => 340
Source	http://rkd.situla.org/
Robot and gadget jobs	a bot might extract the value `refšt = x` from linked articles with sl:Template:Infopolje RKD, if somebody's willing to program it. Some 600 have already been entered in articles manually.
Proposed by	— Yerpo ^Eh?

Discussion

See above for motivation. This one could also be useful to track subjects of an eventual Wiki Loves Monuments competition (not organized in the country yet because the lack of FOP is a problem, but it should be overcome some day). — Yerpo ^Eh? 17:05, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Support But datatype has to be string. -Tobias1984 (talk) 19:11, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
You're right, I fixed the proposal. — Yerpo ^Eh? 19:23, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
Done -Tobias1984 (talk) 16:59, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

official blog

Done: official blog URL (P1581) (Talk and documentation)

Description	url to the blog of this person or organization
Data type	URL or Item-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	en:Template:Official blog
Domain	Persons, businesses
Allowed values	URL or Item
Example	example: John Green (Q630446) => [1], White House (Q35525) => [2], and Gil Garduño (Q18198625) => Gil's Thrilling (And Filling) Blog (Q17492673)
Robot and gadget jobs	Perhaps a bot could search a URL for its feed, for Tumblr and Wordpress this would be simple to set up.
Proposed by	DunDunDunt (talk)

Discussion

This would be genuinely helpful for modern authors, musicians, and maybe even corporations that maintain blogs seperate from their official websites. DunDunDunt (talk) 12:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Support--Micru (talk) 10:30, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Support --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 14:45, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Support sounds sensible--Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 08:08, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Why not use 'Official website', with a qualifier? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:42, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

official blog and official website are a little bit different entities. Also maintaining, adding, using and etc. different properties is more simple, this is importaint for popular properties like this. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 18:40, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I understand the differences, but you haven't said convincingly why we need separate properties, rather than the 'qualifier' solution I proposed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:18, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Support — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 18:40, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Done @DunDunDunt, AmaryllisGardener, Pigsonthewing, Ivan A. Krestinin: --Micru (talk) 18:40, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Pleiades identifier

Done: Pleiades ID (P1584) (Talk and documentation)

Description	The Pleiades identifier for a place
Data type	String
Domain	geographic location (Q2221906) (place)
Allowed values	all existing Pleiades identifiers for places
Example	Luna (Q3267409) => 403235, Gortyn (Q1136193) => 589796
Source	http://pleiades.stoa.org/
Proposed by	Steko (talk)

Discussion

Pleiades is "a community-built gazetteer and graph of ancient places" collecting more than 34,000 places of the Ancient world (mostly Greek-Roman but expanding to other regions and periods). Each place is given a unique URI. Resources available for each place include geographic locations, names and references. In some cases DBPedia/Wikipedia are linked as references, facilitating the semi-automated addition of data here. As of now an experimental alignment with GeoNames has been tried https://github.com/ryanfb/pleiades-plus . Either the full URI or the numeric ID could be used as property value. As the author of this proposal I also disclose that I am a contributor and reviewer of Pleiades. Steko (talk) 13:35, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

For similar indices we have used the 'string' datatype to just store the code number rather than storing the full 'URI'. A little automagic is then used to turn this into a 'URI'. That way a change in the make-up of the URI can be accommodated without having to change every instance. Filceolaire (talk) 05:24, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that makes sense, even though Pleiades URIs are meant to be "cool URIs" that won't change, they aren't really special compared to e.g. VIAF ones. Feel free to edit the proposal as you see fit - especially for the datatype and example usage. Thank you for your feedback.--Steko (talk) 15:33, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

I have changed the dataype. The example is still using URLs to be more clear.--Steko (talk) 16:43, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Support --Micru (talk) 07:25, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Support Eurodyne (talk) 19:57, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Support -Tobias1984 (talk) 20:30, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

@Steko, Filceolaire, Micru, Eurodyne, Tobias1984: Done --Jakob (talk) 19:24, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Municipality code of Brazil

Done: Brazilian municipality code (P1585) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Brazilian municipality code (IBGE)
Data type	String
Template parameter	unknown, not yet implemented
Domain	municipality of Brazil (Q3184121)
Allowed values	Art der verlinkten Objekte (Q-Vorlage oder Text), eine Liste der möglichen Werte oder ein Wertebereich, Muster für Strings etc.
Example	https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrel%C3%A2ndia (provisional, bottom infobox)
Format and edit filter validation	(Beispiel: eine siebenstellige Zahl kann mit dem Missbrauchsfilter 17 überprüft werden)
Source	complete list: http://www.lgncontabil.com.br/icms/Tabela-Codigo-de-Municipio-do-IBGE.pdf - search formula IBGE: http://www.ibge.gov.br/home/geociencias/areaterritorial/area.shtm -
Robot and gadget jobs	none
Proposed by	Emeritus (talk)

Discussion

Das IBGE, Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística (Q268072), hat sämtlichen municípios, vergleichbar unseren Gemeinden (Q3184121) als territoriale Verwaltungseinheit eines brasilianischen Bundesstaates, einen eindeutigen 7-stelligen Code vergeben, beginnend mit der 2-stelligen Bundesstaatnummer. Es handelt sich um 5.570 municípios.

Unter diesen Codierungen sind sämtliche statistische Angaben zu einer Gemeinde in den Datenbanken des IBGE abrufbar, diese Seiten werden mit den Ortsartikeln verlinkt. Die Verankerung (parameter) in den Infoboxen (in der de:WP zu brasilianischen Orten ist vorgesehen - neue erweiterte Infobox), ebenso wird sie bereits bei Ortsartikel in der pt:WP unsichtbar erfasst, aber wird z.B. in Q14407124 noch nicht angezeigt (dortiger Änderungsantrag in der pt:WP ist ebenfalls notwendig).

Vergleichbar sind: P771 Schweiz, P911 Südafrika, P964 Österreich. Do not confuse with (Q17294166) for Portugal.

Motivation? Like to bring some life into Wikidata:Country subdivision task force/Brazil, step one. Emeritus (talk) 01:11, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Support--Micru (talk) 09:12, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Support--Pasleim (talk) 17:46, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Comment The datatype should be string instead of number. --Pasleim (talk) 17:48, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
@Emeritus, Micru, Pasleim: Done as a string. --Jakob (talk) 19:28, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Desa code of Indonesia

Done: Statistics Indonesia area code (P1588) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Code of an Indonesia adminstrative unit
Data type	String
Template parameter	nl.wikipedia: 'Infobox plaats in Indonesië' code desa
Domain	fourth-level administrative division in Indonesia (Q2225692)
Allowed values	number (based on concatenating Provinceid xx, Regency yy, Districtid zzz, VillageId within district, qqq). Code for Villages thus contains 10 digits.
Example	See infobox in https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carangsari
Source	http://www.bps.go.id/ (Statistics Indonesia)
Robot and gadget jobs	none
Proposed by	Michiel1972

A desa is an administrative village in Indonesia. Each entity has a code desa used in statistics. masin use is for villages, although property can also be used for indicating regency or subdistrict (shorter number). A string is used instead of number (because code of a subdistrict starts with 0, e.g. 030). Michiel1972 (talk) 09:37, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Support --Micru (talk) 09:12, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Support --Pasleim (talk) 17:51, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Done -Tobias1984 (talk) 17:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

latest preview version

Not done

Description	latest preview version of software or game
Data type	String
Domain	Minecraft (Q49740) FAR Manager (Q1386527), Mozilla Firefox (Q698), Google Chrome (Q777)
Allowed values	text, Q
Example 1	MISSING
Example 2	MISSING
Example 3	MISSING
Proposed by	Dimon4ezzz (talk)

Discussion

Мотивация Dimon4ezzz (talk) 12:05, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Oppose. We have software version identifier (P348), it could be renamed to "last version" with qualificator of (P642) related to stable version (by default) or to beta version (Q14946400) for beta versions. -- Vlsergey (talk) 07:52, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Not done -Tobias1984 (talk) 17:16, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Pokémon type

Not done

Description	Pokémon elemental characteristic
Data type	Item
Domain	Any Pokémon
Allowed values	Normal, fire, water, grass, electric, ice, fighting, poison, ground, flying, psychic, bug, rock, ghost, dragon, dark, steel and fairy (potentially also shadow and ???). Each entries will be create if the property is approved. No more than two values by Pokémon.
Example	<Bulbasaur> Pokémon type <grass>
Source	in-game informations from the Pokémon games
Proposed by	Ju gatsu mikka

Discussion

I would like to make Pokémon items as complete as possible with as many data as needed to. Ju gatsu mikka (talk) 08:57, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Oppose "Type" properties are discouraged. Use subclass of (P279) to build the ontology. -Tobias1984 (talk) 15:27, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Oppose per Tobias. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 16:02, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Not done -Tobias1984 (talk) 17:17, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

number of injured

Not done

Description	number of people who were non-fatally injured in this event
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	'total_fatalties' in Template:Infobox_aircraft_occurrence. Possible to scrape values from the semi-structured parameters 'casualties1', 'casualties2', 'casualties3' in Template:Infobox_military_conflict.
Domain	event (Q1656682)
Allowed values	non-negative numbers
Example	Tenerife airport disaster (Q223288) number of injured 61
Source	See 'infobox parameter' values above. Also other non-structured data supported by reliable sources.
Robot and gadget jobs	See 'infobox parameter' values above.
Proposed by	Emw (talk)

Discussion

Like number of deaths (P1120), this property would be used to track basic data about the human cost of accidents, natural disasters, military conflicts and other events. Emw (talk) 14:26, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Support Could be useful. --Eurodyne (talk) 14:12, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Strong support highly important property. --Jakob (talk) 21:58, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
Support --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 15:00, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Comment @Jakec, Eurodyne, Emw: Waiiit a minute... number of injured (P1339), created in June, by Jakob. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 15:06, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

number of casualties

Done: number of casualties (P1590) (Talk and documentation)

Description	number of people dead or injured because of this event. Used when precise data on number of deaths and number of injured is unavailable.
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	'casualties' in Template:Infobox_earthquake, likely others
Domain	occurrence (Q1190554)
Allowed values	non-negative numbers
Example	2004 Indian Ocean earthquake (Q130754) number of casualties 280,000
Source	See 'infobox parameter' value above. Also non-structured data from reliable sources.
Robot and gadget jobs	See 'infobox parameter' value above.
Proposed by	Emw (talk)

Discussion

In disasters, it is often unclear how many of those adversely affected are dead and how many are injured. In such cases the term "casualty" is used. This property would be used in cases where data for number of deaths (P1120) and number of casualties (see proposal above) are unavailable. Emw (talk) 14:38, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Support Eurodyne (talk) 00:24, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
Support. Filceolaire (talk) 15:03, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Done -Tobias1984 (talk) 17:25, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

defendant

Done: defendant (P1591) (Talk and documentation)

Description	person accused, at a trial
Data type	person, organisation-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	?
Domain	Trials, courts martial
Allowed values	person, organisation
Example	Trial of Thomas Paine (Q18327521) => Thomas Paine (Q126462)
Source	various
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

One of a series of related proposals. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Support --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 15:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Support. Filceolaire (talk) 15:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Support. Emw (talk) 13:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Done -Tobias1984 (talk) 17:32, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

prosecutor

Done: prosecutor (P1592) (Talk and documentation)

Description	person representing the prosecuting authority, at a trial
Data type	person-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	?
Domain	Trials, courts martial
Allowed values	person, organisation
Example	Trial of Thomas Paine (Q18327521) => Sir Archibald Macdonald, 1st Baronet (Q7526038)
Source	various
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

One of a series of related proposals. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Support --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 15:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Support. Filceolaire (talk) 15:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Support. Emw (talk) 13:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Done -Tobias1984 (talk) 17:37, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

defender

Done: defender (P1593) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Person representing the defendant, at a trial
Data type	person-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	?
Domain	Trials, courts martial
Allowed values	person, organisation
Example	Trial of Thomas Paine (Q18327521) => Thomas Erskine, 1st Baron Erskine (Q332672)
Source	various
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

One of a series of related proposals. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Support --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 15:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Support. Filceolaire (talk) 15:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Support. Emw (talk) 13:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Done -Tobias1984 (talk) 17:39, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

judge

Done: judge (P1594) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Judge, magistrate or equivalent, presiding at a trial
Data type	person-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	?
Domain	Trials, courts martial
Allowed values	person
Example	Trial of Thomas Paine (Q18327521) => Lloyd Kenyon, 1st Baron Kenyon (Q6662537)
Source	various
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

One of a series of related proposals. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Support --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 15:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Support. Filceolaire (talk) 15:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Support. Emw (talk) 13:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Done -Tobias1984 (talk) 17:41, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

charge

Done: charge (P1595) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Offence with which someone is charged, at a trial
Data type	type of offence-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	?
Domain	Trials, courts martial
Allowed values	crimes; civil ofences
Example	Trial of Thomas Paine (Q18327521) => seditious libel (Q7445335)
Source	various
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

One of a series of related proposals. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Support --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 15:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Support. Filceolaire (talk) 15:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Support. Emw (talk) 13:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 17:42, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

penalty

Done: penalty (P1596) (Talk and documentation)

Description	penalty passed, at a trial
Data type	type of penalty-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	?
Domain	Trials, courts martial
Allowed values	e.g. death, jail, fine, probation (or "no value" if acquitted)
Example	trial of Saddam Hussein (Q3306581) => capital punishment (Q8454) (may be qualified by method e.g. hanging (Q175111); or on other types by amount of money or time)
Source	various
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

One of a series of related proposals. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Support --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 15:10, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Support. This will need qualifiers. 'Fine' will need a qualifier with the amount. 'Probation' will need a duration. 'Imprisonment' will need qualifiers for 'sentence duration', 'time served', 'release date', 'place of imprisonment'. Filceolaire (talk) 15:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
Support. Emw (talk) 13:34, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 17:44, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Slovene Cultural Heritage designation

Done: no label (P1597) (Talk and documentation)

Description	type of cultural heritage as designated by the Slovene Cultural Heritage Registry (RKD)
Data type	Item
Template parameter	"razglasitev_rkd_tip" in sl:Template:Infopolje RKD
Domain	various types of buildings, monuments, objects, landscapes, settlements, events etc.; too many to list specifically
Allowed values	Register of the Intangible Cultural Heritage in Slovenia (Q18398453), movable cultural heritage of Slovenia (Q12799435), monument of national significance (Q18363603), monument of local significance (Q18363639)
Example	Ljubljana Castle (Q2075156) => monument of local significance (Q18363639)
Source	[3] (both types of immobile heritage), [4] (intangible heritage)
Robot and gadget jobs	The property will be mass-added to existing items using Magnus Manske's AutoList2 (there's a comprehensive categorization in place locally at :slwiki)
Proposed by	— Yerpo ^Eh?

Discussion

An official designation of cultural heritage (structures, events) by the Slovene government, would be useful to track existing/missing articles about cultural heritage. See also the request below. — Yerpo ^Eh? 17:05, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

Support If you like you could add the information about Slovenia in the table at Wikidata:WikiProject Cultural heritage. -Tobias1984 (talk) 19:40, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

That table is meant for countries with existing WLM database entries, no? The thing is, we tried to get the raw dataset for monuments from the authorities a few years ago, but they wouldn't release it because some objects aren't in a "presentable" state. We got a subset of 2000 objects, but that one we aren't allowed to share with a third party. So we are limited to making individual queries in the web search engine to retrieve IDs and designations. — Yerpo ^Eh? 14:27, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

@Yerpo: I understand. We will just have to work with what we got. -Tobias1984 (talk) 19:41, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Support--Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 14:39, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 17:48, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

consecrator

Done: consecrator (P1598) (Talk and documentation)

Description	bishop who presided as consecrator or co-consecrator of this bishop
Data type	Item
Template parameter	"consecrated_by" in en:Infobox Christian leader (and "consecrated" for the date)
Domain	instance of (P31): bishop (Q29182) or subclass
Allowed values	instance of (P31): bishop (Q29182) or subclass
Example	Pope Francis (Q450675) => Antonio Quarracino (Q604515), Ubaldo Calabresi (Q7485441), Emilio Ogñénovich (Q983902): The current Pope is a legitimate bishop because those three earlier bishops consecrated him in 1992. Fabio Fabene (Q15734379) => Pope Francis (Q450675), Giovanni Battista Re (Q44842), Lorenzo Baldisseri (Q1870209): This official was consecrated directly in 2014 by the current Pope.
Source	http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/ is a well-known source: Catholic Hierarchy person ID (P1047) is authority control for that site.
Proposed by	Closeapple (talk)

Discussion

In many parts of the Christian Church (Q34651), the legitimacy of each bishop (Q29182) is tied to apostolic succession (Q49482): the chain by which each bishop (Q29182) received his new Holy orders (Q662862) from an existing bishop (Q29182), in a line putatively back to an apostle (Q43412). Not all Christian denominations practice this, but it's very important for Catholic Church (Q9592) and some others.

This property's parameter is called the consecrator and co-consecrator (Q4231232) of the item: one or more earlier bishop (Q29182) by which this item received legitimacy as a new bishop (Q29182).

Each item that is a bishop (Q29182) (or subclass) should have multiple of this property, each with an earlier bishop (Q29182) (or subclass) as the parameter. This is because, even though only one consecrator and co-consecrator (Q4231232) is necessary, the apostolic succession (Q49482) is so important that usually there are 2 or 3 "principal" people performing the act: the main bishop (Q29182) performing the ceremony is the "principal consecrator"; another 1 or 2 assist with the ceremony and are called "principal co-consecrators"; the presence of these at the ceremony is well-documented, so that even if the principal consecrator is somehow invalid, the principal co-consecrators cause the ceremony to be valid. Apparently, there are often many other of bishop (Q29182) at the ceremony, who are simply called "co-consecrators" and are less-documented.

This property is not the same as appointed by (P748). A person must first achieve the personal status of bishop (Q29182): the people responsible for that act are named by this parameter; and those people must already have the status of bishop (Q29182). The new bishop (Q29182) then is assigned to one or more of episcopal see (Q2902010); in the Catholic Church (Q15924454), for example, the appointed by (P748) for each assignment is almost always a pope (Q19546). --Closeapple (talk) 00:01, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Support --- Jura 17:28, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Support -- Gymel (talk) 23:52, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Support Filceolaire (talk) 22:49, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Support --Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 15:06, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Done -Tobias1984 (talk) 17:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

deepest point

Done: lowest point (P1589) (Talk and documentation)

Description	point with lowest elevation in the country, region, city or area
Data type	Item
Template parameter	"lowest" in en:Template:Geobox/legend#Fields
Domain	place
Allowed values	placenames
Example	Earth (Q2) => Challenger Deep (Q459173)
Proposed by	Info199 (talk)

Discussion

Info199 (talk) 21:17, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Support--Micru (talk) 09:19, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Support --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 14:56, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Oppose In my opinion this is a query and not a property. We have a lot of notable geographic items that can have the property "elevation". Finding the lowest or highest is a simple query. The lowest and highest point of any country will always be notable and we can create items for them if they are missing. -Tobias1984 (talk) 17:24, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Support Tobias1984 in some cases the lowest point is only notable for being the lowest point so I think a separate property is useful. Filceolaire (talk) 21:15, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

@Filceolaire: I think stating this properties is also fine. But the problem with that approach is, that the second highest/lowest point is also notable and then the third highest/lowest. In that case it would be better to just have "notable point" with a qualifier to describe the notability? In any case this property has enough support so I will create it. -Tobias1984 (talk) 21:41, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Done -Tobias1984 (talk) 22:20, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

@Info199, Micru, AmaryllisGardener, Filceolaire: -Tobias1984 (talk) 22:21, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Cambridge Alumni Database ID

Done: Cambridge Alumni Database ID (P1599) (Talk and documentation)

Description	ID in the Cambridge Alumni Database/Alumni Cantabrigienses (ACAD)
Data type	String
Domain	Persons
Allowed values	eight-character alphanumeric string
Example	Thomas Parker, 1st Earl of Macclesfield (Q936766) => PRKR685T
Source	external database/Wikipedia articles
Proposed by	Andrew Gray (talk)

Discussion

Alumni Cantabrigienses is a ten-volume directory listing all known students of the University of Cambridge up to 1900, with around 130,000 entries. The University Library at Cambridge has supported an online version of this ("ACAD", at venn.lib.cam.ac.uk) which has assigned an identifier to every entry and allows a static URL to be generated (see, eg, PRKR685T).

There are currently around 5000 links to ACAD on enwiki. Andrew Gray (talk) 17:32, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

This would be useful to have. It can be noted that many Oxford graduates are also included, where their degrees were recognised by Cambridge, something quite common in past centuries. So for British history the site is a substantial resource including notable people. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:03, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:05, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
Support Mushroom (talk) 11:53, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Support Fabian Tompsett (WMUK) (talk) 19:42, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Done -Tobias1984 (talk) 16:45, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

code Inventari del Patrimoni Arquitectònic de Catalunya

Done: Inventari del Patrimoni Arquitectònic de Catalunya code (P1600) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Architectural property identifier for Inventari del Patrimoni Arquitectònic de Catalunya (Q1393661) in Catalonia
Represents	Cultural Asset of National Interest (Q1019352)
Data type	String
Template parameter	field "identificador" in ca:Plantilla:Infotaula patrimoni cultural
Domain	places: cultural properties in Catalonia
Allowed values	monuments
Example	Safareigs d'Abrera (Q18006527) -> 18097 (register number)
Format and edit filter validation	up to 5 numbers
Source	ca:Portal:Wiki Loves Monuments
Robot and gadget jobs	User:KRLS Bot could import IDs from Catalan Wikipedia
Proposed by	KRLS (talk)

Discussion

It would be used to store WLM data that at the moment is not on Wikidata. KRLS (talk) 16:28, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

@KRLS: We can probably save the identifier without the "IPAC-" prefix? -Tobias1984 (talk) 16:41, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

@Tobias1984: Changed. "IPAC" prefix is not necessary.--KRLS (talk) 19:05, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Support--Kippelboy (talk) 11:48, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Support--Davidpar (talk) 21:49, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:49, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Esperantist number

Done: Esperantist ID (P1601) (Talk and documentation)

Description	ID number of the person in the address book of early Esperantists, published by L. L. Zamenhof as a series between 1889 a 1909 and containing data about some 22,000 pioneer speakers and promoters of Esperanto (the person would subscribe themselves e.g. "John Doe, Esperantist number 123")
Represents	Adresaro de la personoj kiuj ellernis la lingvon "Esperanto" (Q12344666)
Data type	String
Template parameter	"adresaro" in eo:Ŝablono:Informkesto esperantisto
Domain	Persons
Allowed values	a number of 1 to 5 digits, optionally followed by a lower case letter (starting from "b", to disambiguate accidental multiple use of the same number)
Example	Louis de Beaufront (Q18413) => "1028", Hector Hodler (Q12608) => "7116"
Format and edit filter validation	can be checked to match the regular expression [1-9][0-9]{0,4}[b-z]?
Source	original address books from 1889–1909, reprinted in Ludovikologia dokumentaro. 9 (ludovikaj adresaroj 1 (1889-1902)) and Ludovikologia dokumentaro. 10 (ludovikaj adresaroj 2 (1903-1909))., some of them scanned at Austrian National Library, processed as text and gradually being imported into s:eo:Adresaro de la personoj kiuj ellernis la lingvon "Esperanto"
Robot and gadget jobs	I am running a research project exploring the history of the Esperanto movement (described e.g. in the Society for Interlinguistics proceedings) which has digitized all the data using OCR, proofreading, geotagging and various heuristics. The resulting database is being put on Esperanto Wikisource and volunteers will be invited to help finding records concerning notable people and matching them with the correspondent Wikidata items.
Proposed by	Blahma (talk)

Discussion

This proposal follows a discussion on Project chat in which I described my work on making this resource available on Wikisource as part of a scientific project. One participant of the discussion encouraged me to propose a new property. The address book, issued over a period of 21 years, contains data about some 22,000 early Esperantists (see sample page). First analyses suggest that approximately 8 % of them are notable (at least on Esperanto Wikipedia and the Wikipedia in the person's mother tongue). This should eventually yield some 1750 uses of this property on Wikidata and lead to easier infobox data sharing across languages. A script could link the individual records in the digitized version of the address book on Wikisource to the corresponding Wikidata items. Blahma (talk) 01:36, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Support assuming the number is stable across the editions. --- Jura 08:03, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

The number is stable indeed. Every person got listed only once and each part of the series added new people but did not modify the previous lists. All subsequent reprints (that I work with) are merely photocopies of the original lists. Publications on the history of Esperanto tend to mention the person's number as a proof of his/her activity at certain time. --Blahma (talk) 14:55, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Support. Filceolaire (talk) 20:21, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Support. Tout à fait utile pour les rubriques sur des espérantistes et cela constituera un levier pour l'utilisation du wikidata. --Pinof (talk) 07:56, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Support Sound reasonably and useful, Blahma in general know what he is doing. --KuboF (talk) 20:36, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Support. Eminently sensible. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:28, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:51, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

BBC Your Paintings venue identifier

Done: Art UK venue ID (P1602) (Talk and documentation)

Description	An authority control identifier for art collections, per en:BBC Your paintings#Your Paintings
Data type	String
Template parameter	See en:Template:YourPaintings GLAM (Template:Art UK venue (Q18324985))
Domain	Organisations or buildings
Allowed values	generic string, usually lowercase, no spaces
Example	Royal Birmingham Society of Artists (Q12403) => royal-birmingham-society-of-artists-4793 (resolves to http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/galleries/locations/royal-birmingham-society-of-artists-4793 )
Source	http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/galleries
Robot and gadget jobs	Possible
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

We already have Art UK artist ID (P1367) for artists. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:53, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Support --Micru (talk) 09:21, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Support - PKM (talk) 22:02, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Support --Oursana (talk) 22:09, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

number of cases

Done: number of cases (P1603) (Talk and documentation)

Description	the cumulative number of confirmed, probable and suspected occurrences
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	None. Values often shoehorned into 'casualties1' and 'casualties2' in Template:Infobox_event
Domain	disease outbreak (Q3241045)
Allowed values	Non-negative integers
Example	Western African Ebola virus epidemic (Q15989108) number of cases 13,703 point in time (P585) October 25, 2014
Source	Health institutes, e.g. World Health Organization, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Proposed by	Emw (talk)

Discussion

Number of cases is a basic epidemiological measurement of disease occurrence. Together with number of deaths (P1120), it helps quantify the burden of outbreaks. As seen in e.g. the Ebola Response Roadmap Situation Report, the World Health Organization defines number of cases as the sum of the number of confirmed, suspected and probable cases.

Data on disease outbreaks is often at different level of geography. For example in the 2014 Ebola outbreak, there is notable coverage in both the region of West Africa and also at the national level, e.g. Liberia. This also occurred in the 2009 flu pandemic. Because qualifiers will not be queryable in the foreseeable future, and to encourage creation of new items where applicable, it would be best to have 'number of cases' appear as a ground-triple in a specific item, and not as a qualifier in the general item. For example:

As ground-triple (recommended):

Western African Ebola virus epidemic (Q15989108)

number of cases 13,703 point in time (P585) October 25, 2014

number of deaths (P1120) 4,922

has part(s) (P527) 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Liberia (Q18208679)

2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Liberia (Q18208679)

number of cases 6,253

number of deaths 2,704

part of (P361) Western African Ebola virus epidemic (Q15989108)

As qualifier (not recommended):

Western African Ebola virus epidemic (Q15989108)

number of cases 13,703 point in time (P585) October 25, 2014

number of deaths (P1120) 4,922

has part(s) (P527) 2014 Ebola virus epidemic in Liberia (Q18208679)

number of cases 6,253

number of deaths 2,704

Feedback welcome! Emw (talk) 03:24, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Medicine

Please see the properties proposed below, also. Thanks, Emw (talk) 04:24, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Medicine -Tobias1984 (talk) 20:32, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Repinging: I don't think the first ping went through the system. -Tobias1984 (talk) 20:34, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Support -Tobias1984 (talk) 20:34, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Support. Filceolaire (talk)

Support. Emitraka (talk) 14:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 18:06, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

biosafety level

Done: biosafety level (P1604) (Talk and documentation)

Description	level of the biocontainment precautions required to isolate dangerous biological agents
Data type	Item
Template parameter	None yet.
Domain	organism (Q7239)
Allowed values	any instance of biosafety level (Q898943)
Example	methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (Q595158) biosafety level biosafety level 2 (Q18396535)
Source	US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, European Union directive
Proposed by	Emw (talk)

Of interest for pathogenic organisms. Emw (talk) 13:00, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Support Mvolz (talk) 23:16, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Support. Filceolaire (talk) 23:25, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Done -Tobias1984 (talk) 18:14, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

natural reservoir

Done: has natural reservoir (P1605) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Host species for the pathogen in which it is endemic.
Data type	Item
Template parameter	None yet.
Domain	organism (Q7239)
Allowed values	organism (Q7239)
Example	Orthoebolavirus (Q5331908) natural reservoir Pteropodidae (Q185230)
Proposed by	Mvolz (talk) 23:16, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

For pathogenic organisms. I.e. Ebola -> fruit bat, West nile virus -> mosquitoes, mers-cov -> camels. Mvolz (talk) 23:16, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Support. Mvolz, good idea. What do you think of changing the proposed label to "natural reservoir"? That seems to be the conventional label used in virology for this concept. Emw (talk) 12:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

A few more things!:

Could we clarify in the description that pathogens can multiple natural reservoirs, e.g. "bubonic plague has natural reservoir marmots, black rats, prairie dogs, chipmunks and squirrels" per Natural_reservoir#Examples?

Done! Mvolz (talk) 17:53, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

How about having an inverse property 'natural reservoir of' for this and tacking on 'has' to the front of the this property? This would be useful for users browsing around in a linked data UI who stumble upon, e.g. fruit bat, to learn it's a natural reservoir for Ebola. Emw (talk)

Support. Filceolaire (talk) 23:25, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Why not use host organism (Q221673)? Anopheles gambiae is a host for Plasmodium falciparum. Emitraka (talk) 14:28, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 18:19, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

natural reservoir of

Done: natural reservoir of (P1606) (Talk and documentation)

Description	pathogen of which this species is a long-term host
Data type	Item
Template parameter	None yet.
Domain	organism (Q7239)
Allowed values	organism (Q7239)
Example	Pteropodidae (Q185230) natural reservoir of Orthoebolavirus (Q5331908)
Proposed by	Emw (talk)

In addition to seeing that, for example, fruit bats are a natural reservoir for Ebola on the page for Ebola, it'd be convenient to also see that information on the page for fruit bats. Emw (talk) 13:24, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Support. Filceolaire (talk) 23:25, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 18:22, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

function domain Q192439 / input set Template:Q1756942 of a relation or a partial function / codomain / output set

Status: Done

→ Property:P1571

Done: definition domain (P1568) (Talk and documentation)

Description	relations to link definition domains domain of a function (Q192439)   of functions or partial function and relations ; (domain/codomain are for the subsets of the input/set where a (partial) function always a value , input / output sets are for any relation.
Data type	Item
Domain	domain and codomain : mapping (Q370502) / function (Q11348) / morphism (Q1948412) (?) / morphism (Q1948412) ; input set / output set : binary relation (Q130901)
Allowed values	set (Q36161) / class (Q217594) (?) / morphism (Q1948412) (?) in category theory (Q217413)
Example	⟨ square function (Q3075175) ⟩ domain Search ⟨ real number (Q12916) ⟩ ; ⟨ square function (Q3075175) ⟩ range Search ⟨ real number (Q12916) > 0 ⟩ (don't have any partial function item yet)
Proposed by	TomT0m ^(talk)

Discussion

There is a lot of mathematical functions and so on articles. TomT0m ^(talk) 15:47, 22 August 2014 (UTC) }}

Support. Maybe it would be better to call it domain and codomain of a mapping, it would also apply to functors. Some people use the word "function" only for number-valued functions and "mapping" in other cases, for example there are rational mapping (Q987226) and rational function (Q41237). Danneks (talk) 05:05, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, terminology issues can be complex :/ (I lost myself in Wikipedia writing this proposal ^^) (not to mention idiosyncrasys). I tend to agree we should have a scope as big as possible for properties and to split them only for good reasons. Still can't decide if it is useful to have two distinct pairs of properties. I guess we must be careful not to introduce ambiguities. TomT0m ^(talk) 11:11, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Technically speaking, we have several distinct concepts here. I'm not sure that we need "domain of a functor" property right now, since we don't have many such items, and terminology of domains is not much used. For most of morphisms, it will be enough to specify category to which this morphism belongs (and "part of" applies perfectly here). So we only need domain and codomain of a function; we can write in description "(co)domain of a mapping between sets" to avoid ambiguity. Danneks (talk) 14:28, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Support. I would use only "domain" and "codomain" for clarity and simplicity. Cuvwb (talk) 19:07, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
@TomT0m, Danneks, Cuvwb: Done --Jakob (talk) 18:42, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
- @Jakec: Thank you, but what about domains? Danneks (talk) 20:31, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

@Jakec, Danneks:. I think this was (implicitly) proposing 2 propoerties. I have changed the label of fr:P1568 to domain and created codomain (P1571).--Zolo (talk) 09:03, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

@TomT0m:, shouldn't the French label be "fr:ensemble de définition" rather than "fr:ensemble de départ" ?--Zolo (talk) 09:03, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Dialnet author / Dialnet book / Dialnet journal / Dialnet article

→ Property:P1607 → Property:P1608 → Property:P1609 → Property:P1610

Done

Description	Dialnet (Q3025975) es un portal de difusión de la producción científica hispana que inició su funcionamiento en el año 2001 especializado en ciencias humanas y sociales. (es) – (Please translate this into English.)
Data type	String
Template parameter	es:Plantilla:Dialnet (only authors)
Domain	person (Q215627), work (Q386724)
Allowed values	numbers
Example	J. G. Cobo Borda (Q5949894) = autor 3073901 => 3073901 Historia de Oviedo (Gijón 1978) = libro 50710 => 50710 Arquitectura (Q17519325) = revista 8911 => 8911 Necrología de D. José López Sallaberry (Q17519401) = articulo 3635829 => 3635829
Source	dialnet.unirioja.es
Proposed by	Akron stevens (talk)

Discussion

@Totemkin, HombreDHojalata: Use by Totemkin and other Spanish editors. --Akron stevens (talk) 01:33, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment ¡Discúlpame por no commentar en español! Dialnet and BNE Authorities National Library of Spain ID (P950) seem to have mutual knowledge about their respective identiifers: Dialnet links to VIAF using the BNE identifier, and the BNE authority view under "Obras" proves a link to Dialnet using the Dialnet codigo. It might be more useful to implement separate properties for authors (under "Authority control", cf. Template:Authority control properties), journals (comparable to ISSN (P236) and ZDB ID (P1042) - those don't seem to be kept together at some place yet) and articles. -- Gymel (talk) 12:48, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Great idea! I agree with Gymel the best approach would be separated properties for "autor", "artículo" y "revista"... for example: "Identificador de autor en Dialnet" (Dialnet author identifier), "Identificador de artículo en Dialnet" (Dialnet article identifier), "Identificador de revista en Dialnet" (Dialnet magazine identifier). If not... we would have a single property named "Dialnet" in which we would have to add something like articulo?codigo=2234765 with articles, autor?codigo=307390100 with articles, etc. Weird. I don't know if (with a future development of Wikidata) we would be able to do this with a single property, through statements kinda "código Dialnet = 307390100" and qualifiers in the mold of "type=article", "type=magazine",... but I think it's science fiction right now. Cheers! —Totemkin (talk) 14:02, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi @Totemkin:, how will this new property work with the template w:es:Plantilla:Dialnet? It is not quite elaborated (and only deals with persons). Best regards [07:34, 9. Sep. 2014‎ Discasto]

Uhmmm. @Discasto: Pues viéndolo así, desde la distancia, no veo mucha interacción posible a estas alturas del proyecto. Estas propiedades estarán, por ahora, enfocadas exclusivamente a Wikidata. Una vez se produzca la preconizada interacción Wikidata-Wikipedia (si algún día lo hace.. hehe) pues Wikipedia podrá usar estos datos. En concreto los de "Dialnet autor" podrían mostrarse automáticamente por ejemplo en una barra de "Authority control" junto con los VIAF's, ISNI's, etcéteras en los artículos respectivos de cada autor, con lo que todo el código de estas plantillas comenzaría a ser redundante. Ahora bien, esto hoy día está muy lejos (además las Wikipedia no confían lo suficiente en Wikidata para mostrar nuestra información de aquí). Ni siquiera hemos conseguido plantearnos centralizar los enlaces a las categorías de Commons solamente a través de Wikidata (básicamente hoy día se siguen mostrando a través del {{commonscat}}), así que todavía queda tiempo. Poniéndonos en plan constructivo, la única interacción posible en estos momentos se me ocurre que sería simplemente el importar datos desde esta plantilla en Wikipedia a Wikidata. Para ello haría falta alguien puesto en bots. (también se podría modificar la plantilla para que poniendo simplemente algo como {{Dialnet}} esta "chupara" el código desde Wikidata) Un saludo. (sorry for the Spanish)Totemkin (talk) 21:03, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

@Gymel, Totemkin, Discasto: You're right. I've now separated the different types of identifiers. So we need three properties: Dialnet authors, Dialnet journals and Dialnet works (mostly articles but also books). --Akron stevens (talk) 20:42, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

That's correct, there's also books! Totemkin (talk) 21:03, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

... and they have their own identifiers: So we need four properties. --Akron stevens (talk) 01:24, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Actually above I had not noticed that one needs different URLs to access the notices of the individual kinds. So, definitely, distinct wikidata properties should be implemented. I'm quite in favor of the proposal for autores (classical "authority control" and there is existing data from the template on es:WP - oops: less than 50 inclusions) and revistas (Dialnet often lists individual volumes and provides their tables of contents for its 9000+ journals - that's impressive), however I'm not so sure about the individual listings for libros and articulos: They might be handy as "reference" as proposed and the articulos are cross-linked to the revistas, but especially for libros I don't see any advantage in comparison to taking more rich and detailed e.g. BNE notices as "reference" (nobody has proposed that yet, maybe only because it does not seem technically possible). Thus perhaps we should discuss four different proposals with their pro's and con's? -- Gymel (talk) 10:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Support Likely - like Gymel says - the book id is in this case less important, but imho we should add all four properties together and leave the decision which are the major Dialnet properties to the users. We don't know how Dialnet will develop (maybe books will be more important later). Beside we did the same in other cases. For example: We have added all 6 MusicBrainz IDs and it works well. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:54, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Support 4 properties though this should probably be on the Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control page. Filceolaire (talk) 22:13, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 18:30, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

IRC

Done: IRC channel URL (P1613) (Talk and documentation)

Description	IRC network (Q73) it is using.
Represents	software (Q7397)
Data type	URL (see http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Special:Types/URL)-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	channel (ie. #libreoffice-dev for IRC development, #libreoffice for IRC general, and another one for IRC help)
Domain	Q templates
Allowed values	text
Example	LibreOffice (Q10135) → freenode (Q300885) (→ `#libreoffice-dev`)
Format and edit filter validation	URL must use `irc:` scheme
Source	external reference (the Free Software Directory for example)
Robot and gadget jobs	In later improvements, the string of an item will have to match the relevant channel name, but without being too exclusive.
Proposed by	genium ⟨✉⟩

Discussion

(IRC is more relevant than Property:P553 for free software. see http://directory.fsf.org/ to see what I mean. I would love to add such entries as I do there.) genium ⟨✉⟩ 16:51, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Support -Tobias1984 (talk) 18:02, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Support Danrok (talk) 00:29, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Informatics has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. Tobias1984 (talk) 18:02, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

We still have to wait for the datatype. See bug report.
Tracked in Bugzilla
Bug 72924
--Tobias1984 (talk) 21:31, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 09:36, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

CLARA

Done: CLARA-ID (P1615) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Database about women visual artists
Data type	string (numeric)-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Domain	Female artists
Allowed values	numeric
Example	María Brito (Q6781930) => 942 (http://clara.nmwa.org/index.php?g=entity_detail&entity_id=942)
Format and edit filter validation	/^\d+$/
Source	http://clara.nmwa.org/ - see CLARA (Q18558540)
Robot and gadget jobs	Mapping via Mix'n'match
Proposed by	Magnus Manske (talk)

Discussion

Requested on Mix'n'match by GLAM community. Magnus Manske (talk) 10:02, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Support --Tobias1984 (talk) 10:07, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Support --Jane023 (talk) 10:21, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Support But should we just store the entity ID value ("942" in the example given) as a string? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:48, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Support and updated the proposal to remove possible confusion about what we're going to store. I'm quite sure Sarah will be pleased with this property too. Multichill (talk) 19:38, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 21:47, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

SIREN code

Done: SIREN number (P1616) (Talk and documentation)

Description	unique string identifying companies and administrations based in France
Represents	SIREN (Q15817081)
Data type	String
Domain	subclasses of organization
Allowed values	9-digit string
Example	Lyon (Q456): 216 901 231 LVMH (Q504998): 775 670 417
Source	https://www.infogreffe.fr
Proposed by	user:Verdy p

Discussion

All French organisations and administrations have a legal identifier known as "numéro SIREN". (this is mandatory for having a legal identity, for any commercial billings, for ownning bank accounts, for requesting public subsidies; all billing forms MUST display it).

It is needed to create unique identifiers for many territorial collectivities and it is more precise than the "code INSEE" (for example used for communes but for various usages including the municipality itself, or any resident in that commune, or any other orgnisation or administration located in that area).

Basically it is NOT a geographical identifier (even if it may be assigned to entities defined geographically). Communes, prefectures, subprefectures, groupments of communes (EPCI), all have this identifier. Associated communes (within a commune) also have their distinctive Insee number and SIREN (because they manage their own "état-civil", even if they don't have a deliberating council and are not autonomous financially).

Its format is 9 digits (including the last "check digit" computed with the Luhn algorithm). Normally, all public administrations have a SIREN number starting by 2:

For a commune in the French Metropole, its format is usually "21dd0nnnk" where dd is the department number (20 for both departements of Corsica), nnn is the commune number (the last three digits from its Insee code), and k is the Luhn check digit.
For a commune in the French Overseas, its format is usually "219ddnnnk", where 9dd is the departement number (971 or higher), and "nnn" is also the last three digits of its Insee code (i.e. the last digit of he departement number repeated, and the two digits of the commune number)
For any EPCI (groups of communes, including non-autonomous syndicates, and the new metropoles), its format is usually "240nnnnnk" (they are allocated sequentially without reference to a departement number. The SIREN code is the only valid unique identifier : Insee does not allocate a separate geographic code for them (like for national administrative subdivisions: regions, departement, arrondissement, commune) simply because EPCIs can span communes from several regions or departements. Note: for administrations competent within the same departement or same region (same Insee code) there are several SIREN numbers : one for the local council, a separate one for prefectures/subprefecture, possibly others for academies, or offices of tourism controled by a municipality (but the SIREN may encompass establishements or public properties located outside the territory of the public authority).

I request a new property similiar to the "code commune INSEE" for "numéro SIREN". It will be especially useful for EPCIs, but could be assigned to communes, departements, regions (for their local councils), prefectures and subprefectures. And of course for companies and associations.

Note:

The SIRET is an extension of the SIREN, but for geographic-specific establishments of the registered organisation. All organisations have a SIRET, assigned sequentially within the scope of their SIREN. The SIRET is made with the 9 digits of the SIREN, plus the 5 digits of a "NIC" number for the establishment (a number from 0001 to 7999, 0000 is reserved as a filler for data meant to cover the whole organisation without distinguishing its establishements, followed by a check digit), for a total of 14 digits (including the last check digit computed on the 14 digits of the whole SIRET with the Luhn algorithm).

I don't think we need SIRET numbers in data, but it's possible that we could reuse the same property, taking either 9 or 14 digits (SIREN or SIRET).

The "European VAT number" for organisations in France is made of a prefix ("FR" followed by 2 digits) and the 9 digits of the SIREN (there's a basic check algorithm which apparently uses a modulo 97 algorithm in the 2 digits of the prefix, but the format varies between European countries, so if needed it could be another separate property. It could be a substitute for the French SIREN, but only if we can confirm that the EU VAT number will keep this format in France so that we can safely extract the SIREN from it.

Verdy p (talk) 21:34, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Could you clarify "It could be a substitute for the French SIREN, but only if we can confirm that the EU VAT number will keep this format in France so that we can safely extract the SIREN from it.". You mean it's not acceptable to print the FR prefix? --Dereckson (talk) 00:00, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Support. It appears that it can indeed be inferred from the VAT number, but it works both ways. Country-specific properties like SIREN seems to ne more convenient than the VAT number, because their format is more standardized which makes automated checks simpler. --Zolo (talk) 06:43, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

@Verdy p, Dereckson: property created as P:P1616 . ---Zolo (talk) 07:57, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

BBC Things identifer

Done: BBC Things ID (P1617) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Identifier in the BBC Things database (see BBC Things (Q18336371)
Represents	BBC Things (Q18336371)
Data type	String
Template parameter	n/a
Domain	All
Allowed values	strings
Example	Torbay Council (Q17034697) => 30ee594c-4e1f-4580-9f08-fd8179e6ec19 (resolves to http://www.bbc.co.uk/things/30ee594c-4e1f-4580-9f08-fd8179e6ec19 )
Source	http://www.bbc.co.uk/things/
Robot and gadget jobs	Possible
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

~~I will ask the BBC for reciprocal links.~~ (Update: Already includes reciprocal links; see http://www.bbc.co.uk/things/ddabf049-3cbe-4c83-a37f-94076caded7c ) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:57, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Wow, the link gives „Torbay Council is an organisation” back. Thats a lot of usefull information.

Oppose --Succu (talk) 20:04, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

It also gives aliases, and other systems' identifiers. Did you examine any other items? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Wait I see that this database is still beta. Wouldn't it be better to wait until they officially release it? The structure of the identifiers might still change and it would just cause a lot of work. In general we have so much other work piling up, that something like this seems rather like a low priority. -Tobias1984 (talk) 20:18, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

No; it's functional and available, and the identifiers (and URLs) will persist. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:35, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Checking your link I got a popup: „Let us know what you think”. I think, we don't need this, as a mentioned before. --Succu (talk) 21:43, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

The popup is a user-satisfaction survey, similar to those used by a number of sites to which we link. It has no bearing on this proposal. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:48, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Oppose I saw value in other BBC identifiers, but not in this one. Maybe in the future.--Micru (talk) 22:00, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

@Micru: What leads you to suppose that this type of identifier has no value? Why is the timing an issue? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:20, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Support I see no reason why this cannot be added now. Should the identifiers ever change (and given that they are UUIDs, I don't see that happening) this property can always be renamed "BBC Things Beta ID". Adding it will allow data input to commence now, rather than delay it without good reason. Nickshanks (talk) 21:02, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

@Nickshanks: I see no real argument of yours. But again: What information we get regarding references etc. supporting a beta solution? --Succu (talk) 21:14, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

@Succu: I wasn't trying to present an argument, just stating my support. To back up my claim, I do not believe the identifiers will change because they (http URIs used to identify each concept) have been used behind the scenes at the BBC for several years. Only now are they publicly dereferencable. See [5], and the comment at foot of [6] for some background. Nickshanks (talk) 23:09, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Support Filceolaire (talk) 20:38, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Support per Nickshanks. Emw (talk) 13:42, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:17, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

squad number

Done: sport number (P1618) (Talk and documentation)

Description	number worn on a player's uniform
Represents	uniform number (Q599003)
Data type	String
Template parameter	"clubnumber" in en:template:infobox football biography
Domain	persons
Allowed values	numbers
Example	Mario Götze (Q104454) => 19
Proposed by	AmaryllisGardener ^talk

Discussion

Used in infoboxes. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 02:29, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Support But is this a number-datatype? We won't be doing any calculations with it; We don't need floating points; Some sports have leading 0 on their jerseys. I think string-datatype would be more appropriate and just as easy to check constraints for. -Tobias1984 (talk) 16:25, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Also, there are teams that have used both 0 (zero) and 00 (double zero), even if they used single digits for 1 to 9. See "Double-zero (00) on sports jerseys—why?" (general discussion); All-Time Numerical Roster for the New York Mets; NBA & ABA Players Who Wore Uniform Number 00 vs. NBA & ABA Players Who Wore Uniform Number 0 (and also 3 vs. 03, 7 vs. 07, 9 vs. 09, which only happened in the 1950s). --Closeapple (talk) 17:48, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Changed to string. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 18:11, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Support --- Jura 18:01, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:24, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

date of official opening

Done: date of official opening (P1619) (Talk and documentation)

Description	date an event, museum, theater etc. officially opened
Data type	Point in time
Domain	item
Allowed values	date
Example	Museum für Moderne Kunst (Q456994) inception (P571) => 1981 (ten years later) opened to the public => 1991
Proposed by	P1433-2014 (talk)

Discussion

Needed in addition to officially opened by (P542). --P1433-2014 (talk) 03:49, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Support Could be useful. Eurodyne (talk) 00:28, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
Support --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 15:07, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

( Comment Wouldn't significant event (P793) be used for this? Filceolaire (talk) 15:08, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Support. I've changed the proposed label from 'officially opened in' to 'date of official opening' to clarify that the range of the property is a time, not a place. significant event (P793) requires qualifiers, which will not be queryable in the foreseeable future. It also isn't as conducive to a controlled vocabulary as simple properties, which is a drawback. Emw (talk) 13:29, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Done--Tobias1984 (talk) 11:34, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

plaintiff

Done: plaintiff (P1620) (Talk and documentation)

Description	the party who initiates a lawsuit
Data type	Item
Template parameter	?
Domain	Trials, courts martial
Allowed values	person, organisation
Example	Trial of Thomas Paine (Q18327521) => Government of the United Kingdom (Q6063)
Source	various
Proposed by	Emw (talk)

Discussion

Called "plaintiff" in Australia, Hong Kong, Canada, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, and the United States, "claimant" in England and Wales, and "pursuer" in Scotland, the plaintiff is the party who initiates a lawsuit. It's a basic term in law that makes sense to consider in the same batch as "defendant", etc. Emw (talk) 13:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Andy, Amaryllis, Filceolaire, Tobias, could you please vote or comment? This proposed property would be in line with defendant (P1591), prosecutor (P1592), defender (P1593) and judge (P1594). Thanks, Emw (talk) 19:31, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Support --Tobias1984 (talk) 19:36, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Support - obvious addition to the set. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:39, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

detail map

Done: detail map (P1621) (Talk and documentation)

Description	a map containing details about the entire location
Data type	Commons media file
Domain	province, region, district within a country/state etc.
Allowed values	existing media on commons
Example	Sicily (Q1460) => file:Provinces_of_Sicily_map.png
Proposed by	Bemoeial (talk)

Discussion

Motivation Property 'locator map image' is sometimes used to contain a detail map of the province/district/region instead of the location within surrounding country. Both are useful but should not be interchanged. A correct 'locator map' for Sicily is file:Sicily_in_Italy.svg whereas file:Provinces_of_Sicily_map.png might be a 'detail map' for Sicily Bemoeial (talk) 19:42, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Support Filceolaire (talk) 21:07, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Support--Oursana (talk) 22:13, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Support--- Jura 18:46, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Support May be usefull for battle map or a building plan. --Fralambert (talk) 01:55, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:46, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

drives on the

Done: driving side (P1622) (Talk and documentation)

Description	the direction that cars drive in a given country
Represents	right- and left-hand traffic (Q220656)
Data type	Item
Template parameter	"drives_on" in en:template:Infobox country
Domain	countries
Allowed values	left (Q14565198) or right (Q14565199)
Example	United Kingdom (Q145) => left (Q14565198)
Proposed by	AmaryllisGardener ^talk

Discussion

This property's importance is evident in being in en:Infobox country. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 00:15, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Support How are we going to handle trains? Austria for example has right driving for roads, but for multiple train tracks it depends on the route. Separate property for trains? Tobias1984 (talk) 00:20, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Separate property, I guess. Trains run, they don't drive. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 15:40, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Support --- Jura 18:00, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:50, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

MarineTraffic Ship ID

Done: no label (P1623) (Talk and documentation)

Description	ship identification number assigned by the MarineTraffic database (http://www.marinetraffic.com/)
Represents	MarineTraffic (Q18518862)
Data type	String
Domain	ships, boats and other marine vessels, ports
Allowed values	per MarineTraffic assigned ID number: `ships/\d{9}`
Example	Queen Mary 2 (Q191888) => MarineTraffic ID => 310627000
Source	http://www.marinetraffic.com/
Robot and gadget jobs	Possible; esp if MarineTraffic will share data; reciprocal links URL for ships: http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/$1
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

These links provide live mapping to last known position, declared destination, etc. - see example, above. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:05, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Indeed useful, but make it a simple string, like other such properties; indicate in "robot and gadget jobs" that the hyperlink is to be supplied by AuthorityControl gadget: http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/$1. LaddΩ chat ;) 02:14, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Comment - Should be string if it is an ID. Why not use one property for ports and ships? There is no ambiguity if you also query if it is p31 "ship" or "port"? -Tobias1984 (talk) 19:39, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Support - I have combined the Ship and Port ID properties into one, and changed the data type to string. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 10:23, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Comment @Joshbaumgartner, Tobias1984, Pigsonthewing: not sure this was a good move - ships and ports have different formats, different URL... -- LaddΩ chat ;) 15:54, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Laddo; these should be separate. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:24, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Support In the current form. -- LaddΩ chat ;) 18:37, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:55, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

MarineTraffic Port ID

Done: MarineTraffic Port ID (P1624) (Talk and documentation)

Description	port identification number assigned by the MarineTraffic database (http://www.marinetraffic.com/)
Represents	MarineTraffic (Q18518862)
Data type	String
Template parameter	n/a
Domain	Ports, docks and harbours
Allowed values	per MarineTraffic assigned ID number: `ports/[1-9]\d{0,4}`
Example	sample items that would use that property, with proposed values; example: Portsmouth Harbour (Q7232468) => MarineTraffic ID => 107
Source	http://www.marinetraffic.com/
Robot and gadget jobs	Possible; esp if MarineTraffic will share data; reciprocal links URL for ports: http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ports/$1
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

These links provide live lists of recent arivals, birthed vessels, etc. - see example, above. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:19, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Similarly, please make it a text string (e.g. "107") and indicate in "robot and gadget jobs" that the hyperlink is to be supplied by AuthorityControl gadget: http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ports/$1. LaddΩ chat ;) 02:20, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Not done Proposal merged into MarineTraffic ID property proposal. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 10:20, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

I object to these proposals being merged; the URL pattern for each type is different and the numbers may not be unique between types. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:27, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Support In this form. -- LaddΩ chat ;) 18:34, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:56, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

has melody

Done: has melody (P1625) (Talk and documentation)

Description	This work has the melody of the following work:
Represents	melody (Q170412)
Data type	Item
Domain	musical works
Allowed values	all
Example	Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star (Q1058356) => Ah! vous dirais-je, Maman (Q18336185)
Proposed by	Mvolz (talk)

Discussion: Support. Add aliases "To the tune of" and "TTTO". Filceolaire (talk) 21:54, 31 October 2014 (UTC); Support. Emw (talk) 03:45, 16 November 2014 (UTC); Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 12:01, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Thai cultural heritage ID

Done: Thai cultural heritage ID (P1626) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for cultural heritage properties in Thailand
Data type	String
Domain	registered Thai historic site (Q16438244) (will be heritage designation (P1435) instead of instance of (P31) later)
Allowed values	7 digit numbers, with leading zeros
Example	Wat Phatthanaram (Q16862605) 0005123
Source	Lists in th:หมวดหมู่:รายชื่อโบราณสถานที่ขึ้นทะเบียนโดยกรมศิลปากร
Robot and gadget jobs	Will adapt User:TambonBot myself
Proposed by	Ahoerstemeier (talk)

Discussion

Unique identifier for Thai heritage sites, i.e. sites registered by the Fine Arts Department (Q1416884). Complete list of this sites compiled by the Thai Wikipedia as part of their local WLM contest, this ID will make them identifiable easier and also allow to link with the Fine Arts Department website - http://www.gis.finearts.go.th/fad50/fad/display_data.aspx?id=0005123 is the official page for ID 0005123 (Wat Phatthanaram (Q16862605)). Ahoerstemeier (talk) 19:16, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Support. Filceolaire (talk) 13:52, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Support -- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:06, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Support --- Jura 15:10, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 12:07, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

SIL code

Done: Ethnologue.com language code (P1627) (Talk and documentation)

Description	en:SIL International language code
Data type	String
Template parameter	"sil" in pl:Szablon:Język infobox
Domain	languages
Allowed values	3 lower letters
Example	Polish (Q809) => "pol"
Source	http://www.ethnologue.com/codes/download-code-tables
Proposed by	Malarz pl (talk)

Discussion: Support Paweł Ziemian (talk) 16:54, 17 October 2014 (UTC); Support. Filceolaire (talk) 13:49, 2 November 2014 (UTC); Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 12:12, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Equivalent property

Done: equivalent property (P1628) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Equivalent property in other ontologies.
Data type	URL
Template parameter	N/A
Domain	WD Property - Wikidata:Glossary#Property
Allowed values	Hyperlinks with semantics matching that of owl:equivalentProperty .
Example	instance of (P31) equivalent property of rdf:type said to be the same as (P460) equivalent property of owl:sameAs subclass of (P279) equivalent property of rdfs:subClassOf
Robot and gadget jobs	No
Proposed by	Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/10#Equivalent property

Discussion

Originally requested by User:Filceolaire at Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/10#Equivalent property: "links to equivalent properties in other ontologies." -- LaddΩ chat ;) 03:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Original discussion (Oct 2013)

Support It would allow us to do automatic mapping. It's similar to owl:sameAs. Tpt (talk) 19:12, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Comment. Since we're talking about properties, we should call this 'equivalent property' and have its semantics match those of owl:equivalentProperty. ('Same as' should match owl:sameAs and thus apply only to individuals, i.e. items that have 'instance of' claims.) As with other property properties here, I would support storing 'equivalent property' claims only if the semantics matched those of owl:equivalentProperty. A 'same as' property proposal (permlink) recently garnered significant discussion from Wikidata developers and Semantic Web researchers. A relevant excerpt:

The property owl:sameAs is used to say that two things are exactly equal. One could also say that sameAs declares two identifiers to be synonymous. So anything that was said for the one identifier could also be said for the other. In particular, this means that both things have the same properties. It is a very strong statement of absolute and unlimited identity.
—Markus Krötzsch

Even though Markus isn't referring to this specific property, I have a hunch that he would issue similar cautions about this property. Emw (talk) 15:56, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Comment Per my comment immediately above, I've changed the name of this proposed metadata field from 'Same as' to 'Equivalent property'. Emw (talk) 13:19, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Conditional support I would support storing 'equivalent property' claims only if the semantics matched those of owl:equivalentProperty. Emw (talk) 13:19, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

More discussion

Support. Filceolaire (talk) 17:19, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Support --Paperoastro (talk) 21:27, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:30, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Subject item

Done: Wikidata item of this property (P1629) (Talk and documentation)

Description	item corresponding exactly to the concept represented by the property, if applicable.
Data type	Item
Template parameter	`\|Equivalent item=` in Wikidata's `{{Property documentation}}`
Domain	WD Property - Wikidata:Glossary#Property
Allowed values	Any item
Example	father (P22) ==> father (Q7565)
Source	Initially from subject item of `{{Property documentation}}` on the talk page of each property
Robot and gadget jobs	Initial creation to be performed by bots
Proposed by	-- LaddΩ chat ;) 03:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Discussion

Necessary to replace field subject item of {{Property documentation}}. -- LaddΩ chat ;) 03:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Support. Filceolaire (talk) 15:49, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Support --Paperoastro (talk) 21:26, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Support Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:26, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Formatter URL / / / URL di formattazione

Done: formatter URL (P1630) (Talk and documentation)

Description	a URL-like string, such as "http://viaf.org/viaf/$1/", from which "$1" can be automatically replaced with the effective property value on items
Data type	String
Template parameter	no
Domain	Properties with a StringType that needs "formatting"
Allowed values	a URL-like string with "$1" in place of the effective property value
Example	Property:VIAF → "http://viaf.org/viaf/$1/"
Source	no
Robot and gadget jobs	AuthorityControl.js could use this property, instead of internal settings, to format a property value on items' pages
Proposed by	Ricordi samoa 17:23, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Support This would be great for all sorts of string/number properties to make them IRI-like. For example in biology and genetics, it is useful to know that the gene CDK2 has the Entrez Gene ID of 1017. Although that identifier is useful to know for many contexts, it is also good to note that http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/1017/ is the link where that identifier is defined. Andrew Su (talk) 18:55, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Support Espeso (talk) 06:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Comment I have to say I do not see how it is supposed to work. From what I see, that should be a property of a property (here a property of p214), but we do not have that. --Zolo (talk) 09:04, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Not yet! --Ricordi samoa 09:07, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
But is there any hint that the development team has plans for that ? --Zolo (talk) 09:28, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't think it's very different from having properties on items; ask someone! --Ricordi samoa 09:30, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
I thought you meant that the item pages like Q54919 (VIAF), would contain this statement. Espeso (talk) 14:21, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Oppose We have now the reference structure so we can directly use the whole URL as a reference link. If the idea is just to create a link I thinkthat will transform wikidata in a links directory. Perhaps I don't see the utility but if you give an example that would be clearer. Right now for viaf we have a property so no need to create a new property just to have the link: you can put the link as a reference. Snipre (talk) 20:12, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
I conceived this property to replace the internal 'database' in MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js, to provide a standard and Wikibase-level way to build links from claims; if this can be achieved differently, or it is not technically possible, or the community does not want it, I can smoothly withdraw this proposal. --Ricordi samoa 22:34, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Snipre: Web sites do sometimes change the way they format urls. This function means we only need to change one property when this happens and every link is back working again. Filceolaire (talk) 20:53, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Support As long as it can be added to property pages.--Micru (talk) 22:10, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Support. Add to the Q items for that corresponds to the Authority file property for now even if we don't yet know how to make this work to automatically convert authority file IDs into web addresses. Having this info in an editable form will be important the next time some website changes their url format. Filceolaire (talk) 22:56, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
It would be neat to use this on the property page. I'm not sure I agree that we should do Filceolaire's suggestion—it could seep out into the wild as any site with a URL of any sort might end up with it, even when that was not the intention or desired use, and I'm pretty sure that would be bad. --Izno (talk) 03:29, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Support I think the merge of all AuthorityControl-properties in combination with the use of this in the item would do fine, as soon as the other problems are solved! -- Lavallen (talk) 05:54, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
Support I also suggested this as a way to clean up the dozens of Database ID's that are being created - could use <Apple> database ID <"APL1">{for database: FruitPedia} and then <FruitPedia> formatter URL <"www.f.com/fruit?$1">. Otherwise the problem we are going to have is hundreds of properties for marginally notable properties. Macadamia1472 (talk) 09:38, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

China vitae person's ID

Done: China Vitae person ID (P1631) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Person's ID on chinavitae.com
Data type	String
Domain	people
Allowed values	numeric strings
Example	Xi Jinping (Q15031) -> 303
Source	référence externe, article de liste de Wikipédia (soit infobox, soit source)
Proposed by	Zolo (talk)

Discussion

The website contains data about Chinese officials, mostly about the functions they hold. Data come mostly from Chinese-gouvernment affliated institutions [7], which may not be among the most reliable sources on political matters, but for this type of information, this seems to make sense in most cases. It appears to be the most comprehensive English-language source on the topic. Zolo (talk) 06:47, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Support -- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing:: done: P:P1631. --Zolo (talk) 11:49, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Hermann–Mauguin notation

Done: Hermann-Mauguin notation (P1632) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Hermann–Mauguin notation of the mineral's symmetry element (short form)
Represents	Hermann–Mauguin notation (Q903232)
Data type	String
Template parameter	"Kristallklasse" (Crystal class) in de:Vorlage:Infobox Mineral
Domain	mineral (Q7946)
Allowed values	32: 1 1 2 m 2/m 222 mm2 mmm 4 4 4/m 422 4mm 42m 4/mmm 3 3 32 3m 3m 6 6 6/m 622 6mm 6m2 6/mmm 23 m3 432 43m m3m
Example	calcite (Q171917) => 3m
Proposed by	Kopiersperre (talk)

Discussion

Kopiersperre (talk) 13:33, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Question: Should there be an item for each of the 32 possible values? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:56, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: We have already created the 32 items representing the point groups. Snipre (talk) 12:59, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
  - Do you mean, for example, tetragonal crystal system (Q503601)? That seems to have no relation to Hermann–Mauguin notation (Q903232), but is a subclass of crystal structure (Q895901) and instance of crystal system (Q898786). Where can I find all 32 items? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:31, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
    - @Pigsonthewing: This is a handy list: Wikidata:WikiProject Mineralogy/Crystallography --Tobias1984 (talk) 16:02, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
      - Indeed it is, thank you - but I was looking for a discrete list of 32, as a "subclass of" something, or using "what links here". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:23, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Support @Kopiersperre: This property should be a string property used in the 32 items describing the point groups. See point group (P589). Snipre (talk) 12:59, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Support I changed datatype to string. Does anyone know if we can do all the symbols with the string property? --Tobias1984 (talk) 15:59, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
@Chris.urs-o: Can you still look over this proposal and see if it will work? The space groups will need lower case numbers. Do you think that is manageable? --Tobias1984 (talk) 22:16, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Support We have point group (Q899720), I think that it is the same. Wikidata is young, we have problems with the units: Mohs hardness has to be written as 1.5±1 instead of 1½-2½. The idea was to get the space group of the crystallographic solved minerals. And add crystal system and point group with a bot. Almost 5,000 minerals, added manually. I think that there is no CC-0 database available. The point group could be converted in Hermann–Mauguin notation, before adding it to the infobox. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 10:24, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

@Chris.urs-o: First I was confused, but now I know what you mean. The example says that the minerals should get the notation, which I also think is a bad idea. I think only the crystallographic groups should get the Hermann–Mauguin statements, and the minerals can link to those groups via the existing properties. The "International Tables For Crystallography" were apparently published in 1935. Are those values still under copyright? --Tobias1984 (talk) 11:05, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

I don't know really (I was talking about bot requests). But this is notation, unit, glossary. You can't express yourself without this convention. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 12:20, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Done --Tobias1984 (talk) 14:54, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

religious name

Done: religious name (P1635) (Talk and documentation)

Description	name taken upon joining a religious community
Represents	religious name (Q1417657)
Data type	Monolingual text
Domain	Persons
Allowed values	string
Example	Théodore Guérin (Q434579) => Sister St. Theodore, Mother Theodore Anastasie Brown (Q4751905) => Sister Anastasie, Mother Anastasie
Source	external reference, Wikipedia list article (either infobox or source)
Proposed by	Sweet kate (talk)

Discussion

Nuns, brothers and other religious folk take a particular name when they enter their specific community. There's no real way I can tell to indicate this right now. It's more specific than an alias and more in line with birth name (monolingual). (I think I did this wrong the first time I tried to ask for this property.) :) Sweet kate (talk) 22:43, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Support. Emw (talk) 01:42, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
Support but not sure about the datatype. For instance, en:Hilarion (Ohienko), uk:Іларіон (Огієнко), pl:Iwan Ohijenko show different language variants of the same religious name Hilarion/Іларіон/Iłarion. This should be consistent with properties like given name and should be either all of datatype Item (like it is now) or Multilingual text (I support this more because of some problems with Item - see here and here) --DixonD (talk) 08:18, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

I agree. Emw (talk) 13:04, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Yep. Of the two I prefer Multilingual text. I'm new to Wikidata but not to data in general and it didn't take me long to recognize the given name/Item problems referenced by DixonD. Sweet kate (talk) 15:24, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Support — Ayack (talk) 08:52, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Done — Ayack (talk) 07:59, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

I believe there was clear consensus not to make it monolingual text. Now more mess is introduced when some name properties are items, some are supposed to be multilingual texts, and this one is monolingual text. --DixonD (talk) 05:37, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

That confused me too. Can it be switched to multilingual? Sweet kate (talk) 18:02, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Comment I wonder if it can also be used for pen name or art name?--Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 23:20, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

It seems pseudonym (P742) would be more appropriate for that use. Sweet kate (talk) 15:33, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Baptism date

Done: date of baptism (P1636) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Date a person was baptised
Data type	Point in time
Template parameter	`\|baptism=` in en:Template:infobox person
Domain	People
Allowed values	Dates (possibly times)
Example	Ludwig van Beethoven (Q255) => 17 December 1770
Source	Wikipedia
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

Particularly useful for people from the period in Europe when baptism, not birth date, was recorded in church registers. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:39, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Support usefull property.--Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 18:45, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Support Like that fellow Shakespeare. Very useful property. - PKM (talk) 00:02, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
Support--Oursana (talk) 00:35, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Done

undercarriage

Done: undercarriage (P1637) (Talk and documentation)

Description	type of aircraft landing gear the item is equipped with
Represents	undercarriage (Q263421)
Data type	Item
Domain	aircraft (Q11436)
Allowed values	Subclasses of undercarriage (Q263421)
Example	Cessna 172 Skyhawk (Q244479) -> undercarriage -> tricycle gear (Q2874353)
Proposed by	Josh Baumgartner (talk)

Discussion

Useful specific information for aircraft. Part of the basic description of an aircraft design. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 10:11, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Support Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:21, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Support Sweet kate (talk) 15:33, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Done Josh Baumgartner (talk) 04:20, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

working title

Done: working title (P1638) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Working title, sometimes called a production title, is the temporary name of a product or project used during its development
Represents	working title (Q1170216)
Data type	Monolingual text
Template parameter	"working_title" in en:template:infobox book
Domain	filmmaking, television production, novel, video game, or music album
Allowed values	all
Example	Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi (Q181803) => Return of the Jedi (note that it was later released as Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi)
Source	en:Working title
Proposed by	Rezonansowy (talk)

Discussion

Would be very useful. --Rezonansowy (talk) 23:03, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Rezonansowy Can you complete the example by adding the working title of 'Animal Farm'? Also for the proposal below. Filceolaire (talk) 22:03, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

@Filceolaire:I changed it a little. --Rezonansowy (talk) 15:51, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

@Filceolaire: Would you support this? --(talk) 11:33, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Rezonansowy: I think there are better examples than this one. The movie was released with the title Return of the Jedi so it is more than a working title. We already have a lot of name properties but I can see that this one could be useful so I will

Support but i think the datatype should be monolingual text not string. Filceolaire (talk) 15:03, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

OK, I'm not an expert in this :) Monolingual text would be better

@Filceolaire: Could you support? --Rezonansowy (talk) 17:38, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Support. Emw (talk) 03:47, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Support Sweet kate (talk) 22:38, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Comment @Harmonia Amanda: We have 3 supporters plus me onn this request. Can we proceed this? --Rezonansowy (talk) 10:04, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
- Done --Harmonia Amanda (talk) 13:55, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Pendant of

Done: pendant of (P1639) (Talk and documentation)

Description	term for a pair of opposing artworks, such as wedding portraits, commissioned together, but not always
Represents	pendant (Q591644)
Data type	(item)-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Domain	creative work, Painting, sculpture
Allowed values	item...
Example	Portrait of Stephanus Geeraerdts (Q17644055) Portrait of Isabella Coymans (Q17644271)
Source	external reference, Wikipedia list article (either infobox or source)
Proposed by	Jane023 (talk)

Discussion

I would like to indicate this for paintings, but the concept also exists for other objects such as sculpted plaques or delft vases or silver boxes - note that sometimes the wife had her portrait done by another painter (especially when she was a second wife and the first male pendant got re-used). For usage of this concept on Commons, see c:Template:Pendant of. Jane023 (talk) 05:29, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Support, appears to be needed. --Zolo (talk) 07:10, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Support, very useful. Spinster (talk) 10:34, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Support but please expand the description, not only wedding portraits--Oursana (talk) 12:35, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Support Pyb (talk) 15:00, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Curator

Done: curator (P1640) (Talk and documentation)

Description	mettre la description en anglais ici, par exemple la même que celle de la documentation de l'infobox
Data type	Item
Template parameter	fr:Modèle:Infobox Exposition
Domain	museums, collections, exhibitions
Allowed values	Q5
Proposed by	Zolo (talk)

Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Visual arts Zolo (talk) 07:08, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Support Good idea! Jane023 (talk) 08:51, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Support Yes, I would use this quite often when describing exhibitions. Spinster (talk) 10:52, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Support--Oursana (talk) 12:36, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Support --- Jura 13:47, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

port

Done: port (P1641) (Talk and documentation)

Description	number of communication endpoint in TCP or UDP protocol
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	Port
Domain	communication protocol (Q132364) (communication protocol)
Allowed values	0 <= port <= 65535
Example	Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (Q160453) → 25
Source	en:List of TCP and UDP port numbers
Proposed by	DrSauron (talk)

Discussion

Most protocols at the application level of ISO/OSI model have internet socket port assigned to it by IANA (official) on non-official port used by convention. DrSauron (talk) 18:45, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Mathematics -Tobias1984 (talk) 11:04, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Support Looks good to me. -Tobias1984 (talk) 11:04, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Informatics has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. Pinged wrong project before -Tobias1984 (talk) 11:09, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Support Sounds like a good proposal. Also added some translations from Wikipedia. Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 00:25, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

acquisition transaction

Done: acquisition transaction (P1642) (Talk and documentation)

Description	how the player was aquired; qualifier for P54 (member of sports team)
Represents	sports transaction (Q18515440)
Data type	Item
Domain	professional sports players
Allowed values	items within the class sports transaction (Q18515440) (e.g. trade (Q3246603))
Example	Kat Williamson (Q10558905) -- member of sports team (P54) -- Portland Thorns FC (Q1446672) -- acquisition transaction -- trade (Q3246603)
Robot and gadget jobs	N/A
Proposed by	Josh Baumgartner (talk)

Discussion

Key information to detail how players are moved, particularly in sports such as baseball where understanding the front office side of the team's activity is important to a full understanding of the team's workings. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 04:11, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Done Josh Baumgartner (talk) 07:24, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

departure transaction

Done: departure transaction (P1643) (Talk and documentation)

Description	how the player was released or transferred from the roster; qualifier for P54 (member of sports team)
Represents	sports transaction (Q18515440)
Data type	Item
Domain	professional sports players
Allowed values	items within the class sports transaction (Q18515440) (e.g. trade (Q3246603) or designated for assignment (Q5264402))
Example	Kat Williamson (Q10558905) -- member of sports team (P54) -- Western New York Flash (Q2117747) -- departure transaction -- trade (Q3246603)
Robot and gadget jobs	N/A
Proposed by	Josh Baumgartner (talk)

Discussion

Key information to detail how players are moved, particularly in sports such as baseball where understanding the front office side of the team's activity is important to a full understanding of the team's workings. Josh Baumgartner (talk) 04:39, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Done Josh Baumgartner (talk) 07:24, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

mandatory qualifier

Done: no label (P1646) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Qualifier(s) that must be associated to statements using this property.
Data type	Property
Template parameter	N/A
Domain	Wikidata property (Q18616576) - Wikidata:Glossary#Property
Allowed values	Any Wikidata property (Q18616576) allowed to be used as qualifier
Example	position held (P39) mandatory qualifiers of (P642), start time (P580) (see Property talk:P39)
Source	Can be initially based on `{{Constraint:Qualifier}}`
Proposed by	-- LaddΩ chat ;) 17:43, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Discussion

Such a property would be the basis for constraining the use of qualifiers. -- LaddΩ chat ;) 17:43, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Support. Filceolaire (talk) 15:45, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Support --Paperoastro (talk) 21:29, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:30, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Support. Sweet kate (talk) 15:39, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Support. Snipre (talk) 19:12, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
@Filceolaire, Pigsonthewing, Sweet kate, Snipre: Done --Paperoastro (talk) 12:52, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

subproperty of

Done: subproperty of (P1647) (Talk and documentation)

Description	all resources related by this property are also related that property. Implements rdfs:subPropertyOf.
Data type	Property
Template parameter	N/A
Domain	Wikidata property (Q18616576) - Wikidata:Glossary#Property
Allowed values	Other Wikidata property (Q18616576) - Wikidata:Glossary#Property
Example	member of (P463) subproperty of part of (P361) (member of is the non-transitive subproperty of part of) official name (P1448), pseudonym (P742), P743 (P743), name in native language (P1559), birth name (P1477) subproperties of Name Note: it is not valid to declare subproperties of instance of (P31) (rdf:type), subclass of (P279) (rdfs:subClassOf) or any other property mapped to a built-in property of RDF, RDFS or OWL. See discussion.
Robot and gadget jobs	No
Proposed by	Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/10#Subproperty

Discussion

Originally requested by User:Filceolaire at Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/10#Subproperty: "Useful for identifying properties which are semantically the same as other properties e.g. instance of (P31) and P132 (P132). Also matches rdfs:subPropertyOf." -- LaddΩ chat ;) 03:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Support. Another example. official name (P1448), pseudonym (P742), P743 (P743), name in native language (P1559) and birth name (P1477) are subproperties of Name (here Name is a property we have not created yet). At some stage in the future we should be able to do a search on "Name" including subproperties, as described in rdfs:subPropertyOf, and this will search statements with any of these properties. This will help resolve the disputes between having many specific properties and having fewer general properties. Filceolaire (talk) 17:09, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Support -- LaddΩ chat ;) 17:49, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Support --Paperoastro (talk) 21:23, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Support Tpt (talk) 16:59, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

~~Oppose~~

Conditional support. (Updated per comment below.) I would support this proposal if statements such as "subproperty of instance of (P31)" and "subproperty of subclass of (P279)" were prohibited, or at least put on hold pending a revived RFC. Subproperties of instance of (P31) and subclass of (P279) are a bad idea for several reasons.

First, instance of and subclass of have the semantics of rdf:type and rdfs:subClassOf, two pieces of built-in vocabulary in OWL 2 DL. So subproperties of instance of and subclass of are invalid in the reference ontology language of the Semantic Web. They would make Wikidata's ontology undecidable, and decrease our querying capabilities.

There should be one -- and only one -- obvious way to specify the type of an instance. Having a multitude of domain-specific "type" subproperties would promote an anti-pattern: using instance of (P31) as a catch-all property to make any statement under the sun that makes sense when connected with the phrase "is a". This in turn leads to an a impoverished vocabulary where claims like "capital of: Germany" and "mode of birth: vivipary" are replaced by a few bloated properties that make claims like "instance of: federal capital" and "subclass of: viviparous organism". Most Wikidatans who have weighed in on this subject at Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion#type_of_administrative_territorial_entity_.28P132.29 (permalink) agree that domain-specific properties of instance of should be avoided.

Having a single "type" property would foster another best practice in Wikidata: asserted monohierarchy. In other words, there should be only one explicit normal or preferred instance of (P31) per item. An entity can implicitly satisfy many, many P31 claims (and be part of what is called an "inferred polyhierarchy"), but it is easier to manage and scale ontologies when things each have a single asserted class. We see this already in our fairly successful ontology of people -- instead of saying "instance of: female", "instance of: fashion designer", etc., we say "instance of: human", "sex or gender: female", "occupation: fashion designer". A similar approach can be applied throughout the rest of Wikidata, making our data more normalized and easier for humans to maintain and navigate.

In summary, subproperty of would be great for many normal properties, but we should not use it in ways that break Semantic Web compatibility and promote ontology anti-patterns. Simply removing the "P132 (P132) subproperty of instance of (P31)" example from the proposal template and putting such statements on hold pending a revived RFC would switch my vote to "Support". Emw (talk) 22:23, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Comment. Laddo, Filceolaire, Tpt, I have changed the proposed property's description from "Property that is semantically the same as this one" to a syntactical rearrangement the W3C definition of rdfs:subPropertyOf: "all resources related by this property are also related that property". The former definition was incorrect; "semantically the same" means "the same", but that is clearly not what this property is for.

Also, given the lack of response to my previous comment, I have removed the example "P132 (P132) subproperty of instance of (P31)" from the template. P132 (type of administrative territorial entity) is slated for deletion, and, as explained in my previous comment, there are fundamental W3C compatibility and design issues with declaring subproperties of P31, i.e. rdf:type. We should use subproperty of in a way that maintains clear, straightforward compatibility with OWL 2 DL, the reference ontology language of the Semantic Web, and also does not encourage ontology engineering anti-patterns. Emw (talk) 04:45, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

@Emw: Fine with me too; the concept of "resource" is a bit too technical to me, I would prefer something easier to understand like "characteristics". Alternately, please provide a hyperlink to a clear definition of that word in this context. -- LaddΩ chat ;) 22:18, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Support the new definition. Thanks a lot Emw for your work of "implementation" of RDF standards in Wikidata property system. Tpt (talk) 08:31, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

"all resources related by this property are also related that property" is ungrammatical and makes no sense. Furthermore, the "sub" prefix implies a hierarchical relation which is not apparent in the new definition. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

AniDB identifier

Done: no label (P1688) (Talk and documentation)

Description	code number assigned to the subject on http://anidb.net
Data type	String
Template parameter	uk:Шаблон:Extref-anime, ru:Шаблон:Extref-anime, ru:Шаблон:Extref-people, ru:Шаблон:Extref-company anidbid
Domain	anime (Q1107), human (Q5), organization (Q43229), fictional character (Q95074)
Allowed values	(anime\|creator\|character)\/\d+
Example	Serial Experiments Lain (Q858387) => anime/99 => http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=99 Gainax (Q834328) => creator/718 => http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=718 Motoko Kusanagi (Q6918065) => character/1582 => http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=character&charid=1582
Robot and gadget jobs	link autogeneration by a gadget
Proposed by	4th-otaku (talk)

Discussion

One of the main anime databases recognized by ru-wiki Anime and manga project; also referred to by Ukrainian Wikipedia. --4th-otaku (talk) 17:35, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:47, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
Support. --Yakiv Gluck (talk) 13:52, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
@4th-otaku, Yakiv Gluck, Pigsonthewing: Done --Jakob (talk) 01:24, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

BBC Your Paintings artwork identifier

Done: Art UK artwork ID (P1679) (Talk and documentation)

Description	authority control identifier for artworks (publicly owned oil paintings in the UK)
Data type	String
Domain	Artworks. Currently oil paintings; may in future be extended to sculptures
Allowed values	generic string, usually lowercase, no spaces
Example	Bacchus and Ariadne (Q1206860) => "bacchus-and-ariadne-114356"
Source	http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/yourpaintings/
Robot and gadget jobs	It may be possible to automatically match images on Commons against images in the Your Paintings collection -- eg using the new Elog.io tool for exact copies. A group at the University of Oxford also has impressive tools for non-quite exact matches (eg different images or printings of the same picture), as well as the whole of the Your Paintings image database
Proposed by	Jheald (talk)

Discussion

We're increasingly creating items in large numbers for notable paintings -- eg all the paintings in the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam, or the Frans Hals museum in Haarlem. For paintings from GLAMs in the UK, a useful authority control identifier would be the artwork code from the Your Paintings website, an online catalogue to all the publicly owned oil paintings in the UK. We already have properties Art UK artist ID (P1367) and Art UK venue ID (P1602) for painters and institutions on this website; it makes sense to have an identifier for the artworks too. As well as showing an image, the YP website sometimes has links to further information on particular works, either on the owning institution's website, or eg the UK National Inventory of Continental European paintings Jheald (talk) 14:43, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:46, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Support. Sweet kate (talk) 20:58, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Support Please see next proposal,--Oursana (talk) 00:32, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

DOI Prefix

Done: DOI prefix (P1662) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Unique identifier specific to a digital object identifier (Q25670) registrant, AKA DOIP; see http://tools.wmflabs.org/cite-o-meter/?about
Represents	DOI prefix (Q18340367)
Data type	~~number~~ string-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	tbc
Domain	Academic publishers// libraries
Allowed values	Valid DOIPs
Example	Royal Society of Chemistry (Q905549) => 10.1021
Format and edit filter validation	"10", followed by one or more instances of ["." followed by a positive integer]
Source	DOIs
Robot and gadget jobs	Possible
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

Alexa rank

Done: Alexa rank (P1661) (Talk and documentation)

Description	The website's current Alexa ranking
Represents	Alexa Internet (Q230051)
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Template parameter	alexa
Domain	Organization
Allowed values	Positive numbers
Example	Wikivoyage (Q373) -> 20,477
Source	http://www.alexa.com/
Proposed by	Liuxinyu970226 (talk)

Discussion

There's a number of website infoboxes which need the Alexa fields, as well as other Properties for non free contents, thus I'm nah problem to submit this. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:28, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Comment I'm pretty sure Alexa's ranks aren't free data, but if they were, I'd support this. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 02:44, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
Support. Alexa ranks are very widely used in Wikipedia infoboxes already, so presumably the Wikimedia community would not consider the use proposed here to be a copyright issue. This property would be useful. Emw (talk) 03:26, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

See also http://tools.wmflabs.org/cite-o-meter/?doip=10.1039 (which may also be used as a reverse lookup tool, by modifying the final parameter). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:53, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

I like the idea but don't think it would work as proposed, since DOI prefixes are actually a bit more complicated: the registrant identifier in the case of Royal Society of Chemistry (Q905549) would actually be "1021", not "10.1021". The "10" in front is called the directory, and I think I have seen DOIs with other numbers in front, but I am not sure how to find any right now, or whether these were typos. Furthermore, registrants like Elsevier BV (Q746413) (who keep buying other publishing houses) get to operate an additional registrant identifier each time they buy another registrant. As for filtering, the registrant ID might have more than four digits (not sure here), and subdivisions are allowed. Having said all that, I would find it useful to list - on the Wikidata item for a given DOI registrant - all the DOI prefixes they are currently operating, and to adjust that information upon merger or acquisition, and doing that - as suggested - with the complete prefix rather than the registrant identifier per se would seem more natural to me because that is what people are familiar with. Last but not least, there are multiple DOI registration agencies, and I am not sure to what extent their practices differ with respect to DOI prefixes. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 23:56, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Useful points, thank you. The linked documents suggests that "10" is the only directory code in use at present. In the example given above, we could just store "1021", or we could continue as proposed, and also store, say, "11.1021" as a second value for the property, should that ever be used. The Source MetaData WikiProject does not exist. Please correct the name. Anyone else have a view? [Aside: perhaps the WMF could be a DOI registrant, and give DOIs in the form 10.NNNN.Qnnnnn, or, say, 10.NNNN.en:609232908 for https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_King_of_Rome&oldid=609232908 ] Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:18, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Support Seems to me as proposed (entire prefix) is both more familar and resilient (shoud we ever discover directory numbers other than 10) than a registrant code property. Filtering does need to account for subdivisions, an arbitrary number of them IIUC. Edited filter informed by discussion on http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27910/finding-a-doi-in-a-document-or-page Mike Linksvayer (talk) 20:22, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. I note that the page to which you link has some regexes, which may be useful. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:30, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

While the indicator is a number adding and comparing and ranking these numbers doesn't seem to have any meaning so I would suggest the datatype should be string. Filceolaire (talk) 17:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Agreed; changed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:52, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Total valid votes

Done: total valid votes (P1697) (Talk and documentation)

Description	Vote count for the elections without invalid votes
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Domain	public election (Q40231) or referendum (Q43109)
Allowed values	Natural number
Example	2012 South Korean presidential election (Q82241) → 30,594,621
Source	Data shall be imported from National Election Committee
Robot and gadget jobs	Robots can check whether the sum of votes for all candidates equals to this value.
Proposed by	Kwj2772 (talk)

Discussion

With this property and votes received (P1111), we can get a ratio of votes the each candidate received. Kwj2772 (talk) 16:03, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

well-known inhabitant

Not done

Description	the most notorious inhabitant of a house
Data type	élément-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	"résidents" on fr:Modèle Infobox Maison
Domain	Persons
Allowed values	Inverse of residence (P551)
Example	Maison Gabrielle-Roy (Q3278734) => Gabrielle Roy (Q294999)
Proposed by	Fralambert (talk)

Discussion

Following a discussion in fr:Discussion Projet:Monuments historiques#(idée à la con ? : ) Garde-fous intégrés ?. It will be usefull to have a property about the most notorious peoples who lived in a house. This property will be the inverse of residence (P551). --Fralambert (talk) 01:45, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Finally I realised the property already existed with occupant (P466). --Fralambert (talk) 13:51, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Pinyin transliteration

Done: pinyin transliteration (P1721) (Talk and documentation)

Description	name bestowed upon a person at adulthood
Represents	pinyin (Q42222)
Data type	String
Domain	Q5

I put it here as it is needed for most immediately as a qualifier of the properties proposed above.
Roman transliteration is not always computable from the Chinese characters alone, so it seems necessary to have one, and pinyin is the most widely used system. Conversion from pinyin to other systems is pretty straighforward, so that transliteration in other systems do not appear to be needed.
In the real world, tones are usually ("Mao Zedong" rather than "Máo Zédōng") but as tones can be useful they should be included whenever possible (in the Wikiverse, it appears that when there are no tones it is somehow not considered pinyin). --Zolo (talk) 15:50, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Can you please give some examples? On the other hand, why is this property limited to names of a person. If this property is usefull, it should be useable for all chinese names and terms, including names of places, work titles ...--Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 14:08, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

@Giftzwerg 88: I put it here, because it was complementary to the properties proposals above, but yes, it could be used as a qualifier in any monolingual-text statement with lang=zh. I added a pointer at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic. --Zolo (talk) 13:19, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Strong support if used as a generic property. --Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 13:30, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

@Zolo: When I read the article about Pinyin (in Swedish of course) I see that they talk about 3 different kinds of Pinyin. I have earlier opposed transliteration-properties since a transliteration from for example Russian -> Swedish looks different from a Russian -> English-transliteration and also looks different to a Ukrainian -> Swedish-transliteration. I know less of Asian languages than I know about East European, so my Q here is if Pinyin have the same problems? -- Innocent bystander (talk) 15:13, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

@Innocent bystander: The name "pinyin" has been used for several Chinese->Roman transliteration systems but what I mean here is hanyu pinyin. It is officially designed to be used in any language. In some languages, like German, other systems are still commonly, and for Taiwan related topics, things are a bit confuse, but all in all pinyin is now by far the most widely used system.

Note that it is easy to convert from pinyin to another transliteration system, while it is very complicated to machine-transliterate Chinese characters to an alphabet-based system with 100% reliability.

Afaik as I know has been used a Chinese-language string can be transliterated to hanyu pinyin in just one way except that:

sometimes accents are used to show the tones, and sometimes tones are not indicated (as mentioned above, I think we can solve that by always showing tones)
white spaces seem to be sometimes arbitrary (there is no space between Chinese characters), but that does not seem to be a major issue. --Zolo (talk) 16:13, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Then I

stödjer -- Innocent bystander (talk) 16:21, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

@Giftzwerg 88, Innocent bystander:: done as pinyin transliteration (P1721). --Zolo (talk) 07:43, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Steam ID

Done: Steam application ID (P1733) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identification number for Steam
Represents	Steam (Q337535)
Data type	String
Template parameter	N/A
Domain	Video games and applications
Allowed values	Numbers (positive integers)
Example	Team Fortress 2 (Q382108) => 440; Grand Theft Auto V (Q17452) => 271590
Formatter URL	http://store.steampowered.com/app/$1/l
Proposed by	--George (Talk · Contribs · CentralAuth · Log)

Discussion Steam has thousands of PC games available, so thus would be a useful resource as a property. Would use formatter URL http://store.steampowered.com/app/$1. --George (Talk · Contribs · CentralAuth · Log) 07:41, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@George.Edward.C: Please provide an example. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:13, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Sure (was on mobile at the time). --George (Talk · Contribs · CentralAuth · Log) 16:44, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@George.Edward.C: Done Steam application ID (P1733). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

unveiled date

Not done

Description	Date of unveiling ceremony
Data type	Point in time
Domain	artworks, plaques, (others?)
Allowed values	date, or date-and time
Example	John F. Kennedy Memorial (Q18586139) => 15 May 1965
Proposed by	Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits

Discussion

Currently often held as start time (P580), which is ambiguous at best, and often false. Lots of examples in Wikipedia article text. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:45, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Support. Filceolaire (talk) 19:32, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Support. Emw (talk) 02:25, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Comment Shouldn't this be the same as the property publication date (P577)? --Bensin (talk) 20:27, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

No. As statue can be erected weeks or months before an official unveiling ceremony is held. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:36, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Oppose unveiled by (P1656) is an action and I think we should just use "point in time" as a qualifier for that action. --Tobias1984 (talk) 12:29, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Oppose Use significant event (P793). Snipre (talk) 12:06, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Oppose Agree with Snipre. Then use unveiled by (P1656) as a qualifier of that if applicable. (Since we would not always have info to fill unveiled by (P1656), the solution @Tobias1984: proposes wouldn't always be doable.) Sweet kate (talk) 21:03, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Oppose use significant event (P793) with qualifiers --Pasleim (talk) 19:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Consensus to not create outweighs consensus to create. Closing as unsuccessful. --George (Talk · Contribs · CentralAuth · Log) 18:48, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

art identifier for artworks from Inventario 1890 for the Florentine museums

Done: Florentine musea Inventario 1890 ID (P1726) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for artworks from the main inventar of the Florentine musea
Data type	String
Domain	Artworks.
Allowed values	generic string
Example	Charity (Q15974334) => "Charity by Salviati" 2157
Format and edit filter validation	(Beispiel: eine siebenstellige Zahl kann mit dem Missbrauchsfilter 17 überprüft werden)
Source	http://www.polomuseale.firenze.it/inv1890/; e.g. search soggetto : Cristo or author: Salviati
Robot and gadget jobs	Führen Bots oder Helferlein irgendwelche Tätigkeiten mit dieser Eigenschaft aus oder sollten sie solche Tätigkeiten ausführen? (etwa in dem sie andere Eigenschaften auf Konsistenz überprüfen, Daten sammeln etc.)
Proposed by	Oursana (talk)

Discussion

Motivation see above; seeOursana (talk) 01:01, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Support --ValterVB (talk) 07:48, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Support --- Jura 13:24, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Support Jane023 (talk) 17:51, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Done Florentine musea Inventario 1890 ID (P1726). @Oursana:, @ValterVB:, @Jura1:, @Jane023:. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:30, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

beats per minute

Done: beats per minute (P1725) (Talk and documentation)

Description	beats per minute of a song, etc.
Data type	Number (not available yet)
Domain	songs
Allowed values	number
Example	Fancy (Q15891138) => 95
Source	Wikipedia
Proposed by	AmaryllisGardener ^talk

Discussion

Very useful info on a song, IMO AmaryllisGardener ^talk 03:59, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Support. Emw (talk) 03:41, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Support, but I would recommend changing the property to "tempo" and use beats per minute as the unit. This means that the datatype would also change to number with units. This way, other methods of measuring the tempo, like measures per minute, can be used as well. —Wylve (talk) 21:05, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Support I support Wylve's modification of the proposal. --Bensin (talk) 20:32, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Comment Again this is not a simple number, this is an inverse of time (beats × 1/minute) and therefore not a simple number. It is in general a frequency, the same as beats × 1/second =Hz or any other periodical just as 1/year, 1/month, 1/day 1/decade 1/century.--Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 02:32, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Comment Not sure what you are getting at, Giftzwerg 88? Is BPM too ambiguous? Danrok (talk) 01:45, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

I want to remind that this is not a simple number, but a komplex physical unit (frequency), and we don´t have this datatypes until today. So the datatype is wrong and property creators can not create this property.--Giftzwerg 88 (talk) 17:34, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Done beats per minute (P1725). @AmaryllisGardener:, @Wylve:, @Bensin:, @Giftzwerg 88:, @Danrok:. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:27, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Question I thought there is a consensus to hold this property until the quantity with units datatype is available instead of creating it now with the wrong data type? —Wylve (talk) 18:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Yeah Wylve. Andy? --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 17:40, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

That's not my reading of the discussion; but in any case, logic dictates that "beats per minutes" can only be expressed as a number. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:57, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Wylve was wanting "tempo", but I like it as "beats per minute" expressed by a number, that just wasn't what the others wanted. But I'm not going to force you to reverse your decision though. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 17:49, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

@AmaryllisGardener, Pigsonthewing: From my reading of the discussion, three users (Bensin and Giftzwerg 88 and I) support using the quantity with units datatype. "Beats per minute" is a unit of tempo, not the physical quantity itself. Using "beats per minute" on music instead of "tempo" would be analogous to using "maximum kilometers per hour" or "maximum miles per hour" for an airplane instead of "maximum speed". Logic dictates that a unit should not be used as a property. Not all music use "beats per minute" as a measurement of tempo and there is no reason why a property should restrict what unit is given in its value(s). —Wylve (talk) 21:13, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

id Metacritic film

Done: Metacritic ID (P1712) (Talk and documentation)

Description	link to a page for a movie at the Metacritic website
Represents	Metacritic (Q150248)
Data type	string-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	"ID" in en:Template:Metacritic film
Domain	movies
Robot and gadget jobs	add id used in a lot of wiki
Proposed by	ValterVB (talk)

Discussion

formatter URL (P1630): http://www.metacritic.com/movie/$1

I have proposed four property maybe is possible use only one? (formatter URL (P1630): http://www.metacritic.com/$1) ValterVB (talk) 20:44, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

support for one Metacritic property --Pasleim (talk) 09:19, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

+1 support for one Metacritic property --CENNOXX (talk) 12:24, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

@ValterVB:

Support using one property. The formatter URL would work just fine as you suggested, shall I create it now? George Edward C – Talk – Contributions 18:51, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

@George.Edward.C: Yes, it's OK for only one property, you can create. --ValterVB (talk) 19:31, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Done - See Metacritic ID (P1712). :) George Edward C – Talk – Contributions 19:35, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

id Metacritic television

Done: Metacritic ID (P1712) (Talk and documentation)

Description	link to a page for a TV movie title at the Metacritic website
Represents	Metacritic (Q150248)
Data type	string-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	"ID" in en:Template:Metacritic television
Domain	TV movies
Robot and gadget jobs	add id used in a lot of wiki
Proposed by	ValterVB (talk)

Discussion

formatter URL (P1630): http://www.metacritic.com/tv/$1

I have proposed four property maybe is possible use only one? (formatter URL (P1630): http://www.metacritic.com/$1) ValterVB (talk) 20:44, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

id Metacritic video game

Done: Metacritic ID (P1712) (Talk and documentation)

Description	link to a page for a videogame at the Metacritic website
Represents	Metacritic (Q150248)
Data type	string-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	"ID" in en:Template:Metacritic video game
Domain	videogame
Robot and gadget jobs	add id used in a lot of wiki
Proposed by	ValterVB (talk)

Discussion

formatter URL (P1630): http://www.metacritic.com/game/$1

I have proposed four property maybe is possible use only one? (formatter URL (P1630): http://www.metacritic.com/$1) ValterVB (talk) 20:44, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

id Metacritic album

Done: Metacritic ID (P1712) (Talk and documentation)

Description	link to a page for an album at the Metacritic website
Represents	Metacritic (Q150248)
Data type	string-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Template parameter	"ID" in en:Template:Metacritic album
Domain	album
Robot and gadget jobs	add id used in a lot of wiki
Proposed by	ValterVB (talk)

Discussion

formatter URL (P1630): http://www.metacritic.com/music/$1

I have proposed four property maybe is possible use only one? (formatter URL (P1630): http://www.metacritic.com/$1) ValterVB (talk) 20:44, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

subtitle

Done: subtitle (P1680) (Talk and documentation)

Description	For works, when the title is followed by a subtitle. Replace P392 (P392).
Data type	Monolingual text
Domain	works
Example	Les Rougon-Macquart (Q6027) => Histoire naturelle et sociale d'une famille sous le Second Empire, in French
Source	external reference, Wikipedia list article (either infobox or source)
Proposed by	Snipre (talk)

Discussion

(To replace string property Property:P392, as discussed at Requests for deletions/Archive/2015/Properties/1#P392)

@GZWDer, Jakec, Zolo, Vlsergey, Kolja21:
Support Change from string to monolingual datatype. To follow the same guidelines as for title Snipre (talk) 14:17, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Sächsische Biografie

Done: Sächsische Biografie (GND) ID (P1710) (Talk and documentation)

Description	biographical dictionary of people from Saxony (they don't have an official English name as far as I know)
Represents	Sächsische Biografie (Q1228663)
Data type	String
Domain	Persons
Example	Atlas Crusius (Q107164) position held (P39) mayor (Q30185) source: Sächsische Biografie => 129956341
Source	http://saebi.isgv.de/ (http://saebi.isgv.de/gnd/129956341)
Robot and gadget jobs	yes
Proposed by	Jonathan Groß (talk)

Discussion

The Sächsische Biografie could serve as reference for Statements in WD items on persons, e.g. for the religion of Q18759237. The SäBi uses GND Numbers for reference to their articles and therefor could easily be added by a bot as a general reference. Jonathan Groß (talk) 10:41, 13 January 2015 (UTC) @Conny

Support - is accepted in de:wp via template and is started as a longterm project. Added some details at Sächsische Biografie (Q1228663). Are there any ideas because of the redundant usage of the GND number? Greetings, Conny (talk) 10:23, 20 January 2015 (UTC).

I guess a bot could check the SaeBi database for GND identifiers also used by Wikidata items, and then add to those items the Property:SaeBi with the GND identifier.

As to the "redundant usage": Are there any ideas about automatically linking all databases which use GND identifiers as a reference? Compare APPER's tool which does exactly this. Jonathan Groß (talk) 11:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Support This property can be used in about 1400 items about persons, which is worth it, in my opinion. The "redundancy" (some of these statements will reuse the GND number, some are specific to this property) is a good thing for a simple reason: The fact that the "SäBi" identifier repeats the GND identifier needs to be documented. --TMg 11:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Description	used to indicate an item or property that might provide additional information about the subject. Implements rdfs:seeAlso.
Data type	Property
Template parameter	N/A
Domain	Wikidata property (Q18616576) - Wikidata:Glossary#Property
Allowed values	Other Wikidata property (Q18616576) - Wikidata:Glossary#Property
Example	father (P22) See also mother (P25), child (P40), relative (P1038)
Source	Often stated in field description of `{{Property documentation}}` on the talk page of each property
Robot and gadget jobs	No
Proposed by	-- LaddΩ chat ;) 03:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Wikidata:Property proposal/Archive/27

BBC Genome identifier

listed in

MalaCards ID

natural product of taxon

code Bé Cultural d'Interès Nacional

Slovene Cultural Heritage Register ID

official blog

Pleiades identifier

Municipality code of Brazil

Desa code of Indonesia

latest preview version

Pokémon type

number of injured

number of casualties

defendant

prosecutor

defender

judge

charge

penalty

Slovene Cultural Heritage designation

consecrator

deepest point

Cambridge Alumni Database ID

code Inventari del Patrimoni Arquitectònic de Catalunya

Esperantist number

BBC Your Paintings venue identifier

number of cases

biosafety level

natural reservoir

natural reservoir of

function domain Q192439 / input set Template:Q1756942 of a relation or a partial function / codomain / output set

Dialnet author / Dialnet book / Dialnet journal / Dialnet article

IRC

CLARA

SIREN code

BBC Things identifer

squad number

date of official opening

plaintiff

detail map

drives on the

MarineTraffic Ship ID

MarineTraffic Port ID

has melody

Thai cultural heritage ID

SIL code

Equivalent property

Subject item

Formatter URL / / / URL di formattazione

China vitae person's ID

Hermann–Mauguin notation

religious name

Baptism date

undercarriage

working title

Pendant of

Curator

port

acquisition transaction

departure transaction

mandatory qualifier

subproperty of

see also

AniDB identifier

BBC Your Paintings artwork identifier

DOI Prefix

Alexa rank

Total valid votes

well-known inhabitant

Pinyin transliteration

Steam ID

unveiled date

art identifier for artworks from Inventario 1890 for the Florentine museums

beats per minute

id Metacritic film

id Metacritic television

id Metacritic video game

id Metacritic album